awd4cy wrote:Anybody else feel like we might take a step back next year?
Not at all.
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
buckboy wrote:awd4cy wrote:Anybody else feel like we might take a step back next year?
Not at all.
Bus or bust wrote:Wonka wrote:Whether he starts or not, we really just need him for 22-27 minutes a game and those are the minutes he will get due to his shooting ability. He’s not a great defender, but if Pop was starting him, he must be passable
Exactly. And those Spurs teams never had the same defensive identity as other Spurs teams. Having Pop as his former coach and being in a team with a core defensive identity should help bring out the best of him defensively. I could see him being an average to slightly below average defender in our team which is fine when you consider what he brings offensively. I mean we had games where Korver got 20+ mins and he is a negative on D no matter how you slice it so I see this as an upgrade on that front.
dogswithbeesintheirmouths wrote:The book on Forbes is that he can really shoot and doesn't turn it over, but is not quick enough to penetrate or defend, making his value limited. IMO signing him and Augustin is redundant and you can't play both at the same time.
agiaco wrote:He's a 6th man type player. Scoring and shooting off the bench. Donte should still be starting at the 2 assuming the roster stays the same.
DukeH wrote:Plenty, RealGM Bucks Board is the Golden Dawn of forums.
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
Daver wrote:Im guilty saying that i felt DDV was to short to start at play SG well isnt a guy who is onlyv 6'2 ( forbes) then to short to start at SG
GREY 1769 wrote:I can't help but laugh because Spurs fans here are completely right about Bryn, but I can't help but feel happy for Bryn as well. For someone who went from undrafted to a starter (largely by default, but that's another story) and from a guaranteed pay raise two seasons ago to last season seeing his stock drop to no re-sign, Bryn has landed in a perfect spot for his game and for Bucks' needs.
He will be back to a more streamlined role of hitting 3s, something he did quite well two seasons ago, and dropped last season due to a bigger role and I think perhaps some pressure to keep up the pace from the previous season. Not to worry, Bucks fans, this isn't anxiety on the big stage. He does not hesitate when brought in late or key stages to let it fly.
He was a small guard who didn't have the stamina to last a whole season (famous rookie/sophmore pro wall) and got pushed around when he drove so he hit the gym hard, bulked up, and started most of two seasons. He also developed a nice floater in the key should defenders get too tight on him.
It's his poor D - there's no sugar-coating it, his poor handles beyond a few bounces, and sometimes weird passing decisions that really stood out. We needed more from him, and those aspects of his game didn't really follow. By the bubble, he simply got passed over in the rotation by the more versatile two-way young guys we have coming up.
But on a team with contender aspirations where the D is solid and Sparty needs to come in and hit daggers? Yes, that's a sweet spot for him. I also like that he's going into a place with a familiar culture similar to that of the Spurs with Bud at the helm.
He's a humble guy, great in the locker room, is positive, even-keeled, has some spunk, and is a very hard worker. He is a need-a-bucket guy, floor spacer, will do what is asked of him on O, a great fit for a team with a specific need. Treat him well, Bucks fans. Best of luck, Sparty!
The Bucks have rebounded really well with Bryn and Craig signings. Well done. Good luck!
GREY 1769 wrote:Bigfactsstackz wrote:Malapropism wrote:Why do Spurs fans hate this guy so much?
We don’t hate him .. We hate how much leeway he gets from Pop .. If white , Murray , Walker make a mistake they will get pulled, Forbes is allowed to play no matter how many defensive mistakes he makes ..
You should read this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spurstalk.com/bryn-forbes-san-antonio-spurs-failed-experiment/amp/
Truly awful coaching from pop last year
The details is where I split with other Spurs fans about this Bryn starting issue. It's not as simple as other guards getting pulled. And I would say that DJ hardly got pulled, but was given a lot of leeway to play through mistakes. Walker would get pulled, yes. But that's because he needed to learn that there are consequences for defensive mistakes,like don't give space to a hot 3-point shooter, don't take plays off. Walker didn't like it, but is quoted as saying that in retrospect he needed it and it made him a better player. Later in the season, Pop would put Walker in late in games for D. Sometimes for DD. That's a testament to increased trust in Walker making the right play. Look at Walker's minutes through the year. He was brought along just right.
Because Walker wasn't ready, we needed White to come off the bench for a balance in the roster. Had we started DJ/White that would have left a Hobbit-sized, D-deficient back court of Bryn and Patty.
People forget that two seasons ago, Bryn also started and things went far better. He was alongside White then. So it's about more than just Bryn sucks on D or supposed awful coaching from Pop. Coaching is about bringing up along those who will eventually get more minutes, about managing situations (DJ who didn't take being benched for eight games when not playing well), balancing the roster so that there's a fit and not as much of a drop off from one unit to another. We were challenged for various reasons last season - sudden new starter Trey (moving Jakob back to the bench when he previously started next to LMA), essentially not being able to use a player like we expected (Carroll who proven absolutely useless), etc.
There's layers to this. There was A LOT to keep figuring out and develop, and while that was going on, whatever could remain steady did, it's just that things didn't work as well with Bryn and DJ as it did with Bryn and White the year before.
Anyway, this is good for the Spurs, good for Bryn, and good for the Bucks.