2021 NBA Draft - Spoilers OK

emunney · Post #141 » by **emunney** » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:42 pm

Cool stuff here:

Ron Swanson · Post #142 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:48 pm

I may like Mann more than most. Good size and shooting mechanics. Not the most explosive but more of a smooth athlete. Think there's a lot of room to improve on his skill set, and he's still a pretty young sophomore (won't turn 21 until February next year). Kind of gives me some SGA vibes.

So, has Suggs officially made it a debate over who you take #1 overall? I don't usually let tourney performance affect my analysis too much, but it's hard for me to watch him and not see how he isn't an efficient 25+ scorer and dynamic play-maker with the kind of finishes that he was making. Pretty rare to be that NBA-ready both physically and skill-wise at 19 years old.

tydett · Post #143 » by **tydett** » Tue Apr 6, 2021 6:31 pm

Has there ever been an easier to call pick than the Orlando Magic picking early in the lottery with John Hammond as GM and picking Scottie Barnes? Though this is actually going to be a good pick.

mattg · Post #144 » by **mattg** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 1:03 am

emunney wrote:Where do you guys have Abmas?

Think he's basically Patty Mills. Don't see how he isn't a late first if he comes out.

Badgerlander · Post #145 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 10:42 am

emunney wrote:Yeah Butler is a very good all around player who should be at or near the top of the list in the early 2nd.

I think he will be late lotto after athletic testing unless he’s shorter than I think he is. Love to get him

Baddy Chuck · Post #146 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:54 am

mattg wrote:
emunney wrote:Where do you guys have Abmas?

Think he's basically Patty Mills. Don't see how he isn't a late first if he comes out.

I'm listening, go on.

Post #147 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 4:56 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
emunney wrote:Yeah Butler is a very good all around player who should be at or near the top of the list in the early 2nd.

I think he will be late lotto after athletic testing unless he’s shorter than I think he is. Love to get him

His arms are short, but I think he's 6'3 with shoes. I have him going around 20 - 25.

SupremeHustle · Post #148 » by **SupremeHustle** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:34 pm

emunney wrote:Cool stuff here:

Read on Twitter

Sold.

Matches Malone · Post #149 » by **Matches Malone** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:42 am

Was hoping Mathurin would come out and possibly fall to our 2nd round pick. I still really want Cam Thomas from LSU but he could go late 1st.

Read on Twitter

Post #150 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:02 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
emunney wrote:Cool stuff here:

Read on Twitter

Sold.

Tremendous fundamentals for his age. I think he goes higher than the mocks have him - top 20.

Post #151 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:03 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Was hoping Mathurin would come out and possibly fall to our 2nd round pick. I still really want Cam Thomas from LSU but he could go late 1st.

Read on Twitter

I'm not a Cam Thomas fan - seems like too much of a chucker.

Here's a good solid (but not spectacular) 2nd round 3 and D prospect:

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/kessler-edwards/

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emunney · Post #152 » by **emunney** » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:36 pm

Ruzious wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
emunney wrote:Cool stuff here:

Read on Twitter

Sold.

Tremendous fundamentals for his age. I think he goes higher than the mocks have him - top 20.

Yeah, love his size, coordination, aggressiveness, too. Would trade up for him frankly. If he looks like this at 18, you could imagine him being a big dude eventually. He's going to list at 6-10 in the NBA, and that's if he's done growing.

Jez2983 · Post #153 » by **Jez2983** » Wed May 5, 2021 11:51 am

Dunno if you guys have looked at Josh Giddey from us, but I just read an Australian Scouting report that simultaneously described him as unathletic vs NBA players and then compared him to Turner/Rubio...

It goes without saying he should try and be like Joe.

emunney · Post #154 » by **emunney** » Wed May 5, 2021 9:22 pm

Jez2983 wrote:Dunno if you guys have looked at Josh Giddey from us, but I just read an Australian Scouting report that simultaneously described him as unathletic vs NBA players and then compared him to Turner/Rubio...

It goes without saying he should try and be like Joe.

His shot is like early Jason Kidd level, but he's a real PG unlike Turner, he's just tall. Think he'd be a great fit next to Jrue in spite of the shooting. I am always looking for guys who can run offense and see the floor.

emunney · Post #155 » by **emunney** » Thu May 6, 2021 4:27 pm

Watched some Nova games back to back to back, and I have discovered that I **** love Jeremiah Robinson-Earl. This dude is going to be U S E F U L.

jakecronus8 · Post #156 » by **jakecronus8** » Mon May 10, 2021 12:54 pm

Can anyone confirm what pick they have in the second round? All the websites are different

tski1972 · Post #157 » by **tski1972** » Mon May 10, 2021 1:33 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Can anyone confirm what pick they have in the second round? All the websites are different

The Bucks currently have Houston’s 2nd round pick, which is 31 overall.

emunney · Post #158 » by **emunney** » Mon May 10, 2021 1:46 pm

tski1972 wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Can anyone confirm what pick they have in the second round? All the websites are different

The Bucks currently have Houston’s 2nd round pick, which is 31 overall.

One more loss clinches it (4 fewer wins than Detroit with 4 games to play).

Post #159 » by **Ruzious** » Mon May 10, 2021 1:47 pm

emunney wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:Dunno if you guys have looked at Josh Giddey from us, but I just read an Australian Scouting report that simultaneously described him as unathletic vs NBA players and then compared him to Turner/Rubio...

It goes without saying he should try and be like Joe.

His shot is like early Jason Kidd level, but he's a real PG unlike Turner, he's just tall. Think he'd be a great fit next to Jrue in spite of the shooting. I am always looking for guys who can run offense and see the floor.

Just wish we could see him against quality opposition - to see if his skills translate and if he's quick enough to excel in the NBA. His shot has dramatically improved during the season. A gifted natural passer.

Should we settle for Joel Ayayi - combo guard and winner who does everything well but doesn't really excel at anything? Good size if he plays the point.

emunney · Post #160 » by **emunney** » Mon May 10, 2021 2:03 pm

Ruzious wrote:
emunney wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:Dunno if you guys have looked at Josh Giddey from us, but I just read an Australian Scouting report that simultaneously described him as unathletic vs NBA players and then compared him to Turner/Rubio...

It goes without saying he should try and be like Joe.

His shot is like early Jason Kidd level, but he's a real PG unlike Turner, he's just tall. Think he'd be a great fit next to Jrue in spite of the shooting. I am always looking for guys who can run offense and see the floor.

Just wish we could see him against quality opposition - to see if his skills translate and if he's quick enough to excel in the NBA. His shot has dramatically improved during the season. A gifted natural passer.

It's odd to me that we never apply this competition caveat to NCAA players when that's clearly the worst level of competition guys get drafted out of, other than the guys who don't compete at all and take a gap year to train and maybe China, where there's no defense. IMO the NBL is not that different from many of the domestic leagues.

Not even saying you disagree with any of this, and obviously it'd be better if he were doing what he's doing now in Euroleague. I just think if we had a 6-8 freshman in the NCAA doing what he's doing, we'd be all over him, and I think he'd have done a lot better than that.