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Re: PG Knicks: Bryn Curry 

Post#201 » by DrWood » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:17 am

FrieAaron wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:I guess you rely on stats since you can't watch... he's just as wide open as Forbes and Portis all night, he just keeps missing. He's not forcing shots


This is a cop out answer. I've watched every game this season and I'm not sure what me watching would even have to do with this discussion.

There are 12 players in the NBA currently shooting 45% or higher from three on over a very generous 2 attempts per game and 2 of those players are already Bucks. Of those 12 players, only Joe Harris, Joe Ingles, Bryn Forbes and Cameron Payne have done it before. Most of the rest haven't even been that close. One of them is Tony Snell. You're requiring Donte to be elite before he can start. I think there are arguments to play Donte less with Giannis but setting the bar at 45% is, again, absurd.

I mean, it would be great if we could acquire Joe Ingles and Cameron Payne. But getting them for DJA, Pat, spare parts and 2nd round picks isn't going to do it. That's the level of impossibility that we're dealing with to engage with the OP. He doesn't even realize he's suggesting impossibilities.
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Post#202 » by -Jragon- » Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:08 pm

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FrieAaron wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:I guess you rely on stats since you can't watch... he's just as wide open as Forbes and Portis all night, he just keeps missing. He's not forcing shots


This is a cop out answer. I've watched every game this season and I'm not sure what me watching would even have to do with this discussion.

There are 12 players in the NBA currently shooting 45% or higher from three on over a very generous 2 attempts per game and 2 of those players are already Bucks. Of those 12 players, only Joe Harris, Joe Ingles, Bryn Forbes and Cameron Payne have done it before. Most of the rest haven't even been that close. One of them is Tony Snell. You're requiring Donte to be elite before he can start. I think there are arguments to play Donte less with Giannis but setting the bar at 45% is, again, absurd.

I mean, it would be great if we could acquire Joe Ingles and Cameron Payne. But getting them for DJA, Pat, spare parts and 2nd round picks isn't going to do it. That's the level of impossibility that we're dealing with to engage with the OP. He doesn't even realize he's suggesting impossibilities.


Impossibilities my A$$.

A. was to get a real 2nd superstar to take the heat off Giannis like how Wade did.

B. Is put snipers around Giannis. Now, there are 60 to 70 better percentage 3 point shooters than DDV... are there 60 to 70 superstars better than Jrue or Khris? I'd say B is more likely but please enlighten me
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Post#203 » by DrWood » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:27 am

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This is a cop out answer. I've watched every game this season and I'm not sure what me watching would even have to do with this discussion.

There are 12 players in the NBA currently shooting 45% or higher from three on over a very generous 2 attempts per game and 2 of those players are already Bucks. Of those 12 players, only Joe Harris, Joe Ingles, Bryn Forbes and Cameron Payne have done it before. Most of the rest haven't even been that close. One of them is Tony Snell. You're requiring Donte to be elite before he can start. I think there are arguments to play Donte less with Giannis but setting the bar at 45% is, again, absurd.

I mean, it would be great if we could acquire Joe Ingles and Cameron Payne. But getting them for DJA, Pat, spare parts and 2nd round picks isn't going to do it. That's the level of impossibility that we're dealing with to engage with the OP. He doesn't even realize he's suggesting impossibilities.


Impossibilities my A$$.

A. was to get a real 2nd superstar to take the heat off Giannis like how Wade did.

B. Is put snipers around Giannis. Now, there are 60 to 70 better percentage 3 point shooters than DDV... are there 60 to 70 superstars better than Jrue or Khris? I'd say B is more likely but please enlighten me

I seriously doubt anyone on this board is up to the task. Many have tried. I'll just assume you're a troll.
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Re: PG Knicks: Bryn Curry 

Post#204 » by giannis and 1 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:41 am

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DrWood wrote:
FrieAaron wrote:
This is a cop out answer. I've watched every game this season and I'm not sure what me watching would even have to do with this discussion.

There are 12 players in the NBA currently shooting 45% or higher from three on over a very generous 2 attempts per game and 2 of those players are already Bucks. Of those 12 players, only Joe Harris, Joe Ingles, Bryn Forbes and Cameron Payne have done it before. Most of the rest haven't even been that close. One of them is Tony Snell. You're requiring Donte to be elite before he can start. I think there are arguments to play Donte less with Giannis but setting the bar at 45% is, again, absurd.

I mean, it would be great if we could acquire Joe Ingles and Cameron Payne. But getting them for DJA, Pat, spare parts and 2nd round picks isn't going to do it. That's the level of impossibility that we're dealing with to engage with the OP. He doesn't even realize he's suggesting impossibilities.


Impossibilities my A$$.

A. was to get a real 2nd superstar to take the heat off Giannis like how Wade did.

B. Is put snipers around Giannis. Now, there are 60 to 70 better percentage 3 point shooters than DDV... are there 60 to 70 superstars better than Jrue or Khris? I'd say B is more likely but please enlighten me

We have snipers around Giannis. Just because one of them isn't an automatic bucket from 3 doesn't mean we don't have shooters around Giannis.

Every single player on the roster isn't supposed to be a shooter, that's ridiculous. Giannis with a bunch of Luke Kennards would be trash.
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Post#205 » by emunney » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:43 am

Bryn us such a clear case study on why being a lights out shooter is not enough, hilarious to see him put forth as evidence of the opposite.

The age of the specialist is *dying*, folks. The league just hasn't fully figured it out yet.
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Post#206 » by giannis and 1 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:46 am

emunney wrote:Bryn us such a clear case study on why being a lights out shooter is not enough, hilarious to see him put forth as evidence of the opposite.

The age of the specialist is *dying*, folks. The league just hasn't fully figured it out yet.

People forget how unplayable Mirotic and Korver were in the playoffs.
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Re: PG Knicks: Bryn Curry 

Post#207 » by jute2003 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:08 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
emunney wrote:Bryn us such a clear case study on why being a lights out shooter is not enough, hilarious to see him put forth as evidence of the opposite.

The age of the specialist is *dying*, folks. The league just hasn't fully figured it out yet.

People forget how unplayable Mirotic and Korver were in the playoffs.
Korver was like 93 years old and Mirotic was broken either mentally or emotionally. I dont necessarily disagree with the point but those 2 don't prove anything.
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Re: PG Knicks: Bryn Curry 

Post#208 » by giannis and 1 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:11 am

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giannis and 1 wrote:
emunney wrote:Bryn us such a clear case study on why being a lights out shooter is not enough, hilarious to see him put forth as evidence of the opposite.

The age of the specialist is *dying*, folks. The league just hasn't fully figured it out yet.

People forget how unplayable Mirotic and Korver were in the playoffs.
Korver was like 93 years old and Mirotic was broken either mentally or emotionally. I dont necessarily disagree with the point but those 2 don't prove anything.

That doesn't really matter, what they were when they played for the Bucks is 3 point specialists that were terrible at everything else, and it showed.
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Post#209 » by -Jragon- » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:32 am

And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/
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Post#210 » by -Jragon- » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:38 am

-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/


Bryn was mentioned as honorable mention in that one.

On this next list he's number 32 out of 30 NBA teams so I'm still not sure who else he'd start for.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg
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Post#211 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:38 am

-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/


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Post#212 » by Prez » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:41 am

-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/

Are we really pulling up garbage lists made by random dudes before the season even started to try to prove our points now?

You understand the same idiot who wrote that article also had the corpses of Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love above Kevin Durant, right?
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Post#213 » by -Jragon- » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:43 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/


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Does anyone... anyone outside of Milwaukee ...think he's a top 30 SG in the league? Show me. If not, it's just a little DDV hype club.
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Post#214 » by chonestown » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:43 am

-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/


Though it was written two weeks before the season even started, The Great TPR makes a compelling argument. Thanks for sharing.
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Post#215 » by -Jragon- » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:53 am

chonestown wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/


Though it was written two weeks before the season even started, The Great TPR makes a compelling argument. Thanks for sharing.


True but where else to look? Here, fantasy nba shooting guards rankings he's 45 again out of 30 teams. It's just a Milwaukee thing. We focus on him and create an ideal fantasy for how great he's becoming without noticing there's like 4 or 5 better already SGs than him being drafted each year.
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Post#216 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:53 am

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ShootingtheJ wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:And also maybe I'm not so crazy. Donte isn't mentioned in this top 30 shooting guards list but apparently Milwaukee DDV fanboys think he'd start for any team in the league.

https://www.persources.com/ranking-top-30-shooting-guards-2020-2021-nba-season/


Fanboys= people who understand data


Does anyone... anyone outside of Milwaukee ...think he's a top 30 SG in the league? Show me. If not, it's just a little DDV hype club.



Have you realized that the group you've been arguing with are myself, plus all the smartest posters here?

No need to respond, your act is years from becoming entertaining the way David Dunn's has become. However, I beg of you to simply ponder why arbitrary advanced stats constantly conspire against you?
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Post#217 » by chonestown » Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:03 am

I look at Kevin Knox and he has to be a disappointment. Just don't see Thibs allowing him to work through growing pains. Good thing Quigley is showing promise. The cosmic ballet continues.
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Post#218 » by -Jragon- » Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:08 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
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Fanboys= people who understand data


Does anyone... anyone outside of Milwaukee ...think he's a top 30 SG in the league? Show me. If not, it's just a little DDV hype club.



Have you realized that the group you've been arguing with are myself, plus all the smartest posters here?

No need to respond, your act is years from becoming entertaining the way David Dunn's has become. However, I beg of you to simply ponder why arbitrary advanced stats constantly conspire against you?


How entertaining that you call yourself the smartest. All us dummies better just wait for you to post your hyper advanced plus minus algorithms that show on nighttime games 10 days before a full moon Donte is a top 15 or 20 shooting guard although noone outside of Milwaukee agrees. Thanks for your guidance oh smart ones.
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Post#219 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:16 am

-Jragon- wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
Does anyone... anyone outside of Milwaukee ...think he's a top 30 SG in the league? Show me. If not, it's just a little DDV hype club.



Have you realized that the group you've been arguing with are myself, plus all the smartest posters here?

No need to respond, your act is years from becoming entertaining the way David Dunn's has become. However, I beg of you to simply ponder why arbitrary advanced stats constantly conspire against you?


How entertaining that you call yourself the smartest. All us dummies better just wait for you to post your hyper advanced plus minus algorithms that show on nighttime games 10 days before a full moon Donte is a top 15 or 20 shooting guard although noone outside of Milwaukee agrees. Thanks for your guidance oh smart ones.


My poor friend, read it again. I literally mention myself separately from the people I mention as intelligent.
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Post#220 » by -Jragon- » Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:23 am

Noted. So those lists mentioned before: I haven't seen enough flashes or consistency to say he has moved up significantly. Furthermore, he had a chance to really assert himself when Jrue was out and we needed someone but that didn't happen either. If anyone outside Milwaukee comes up with a SG ranking list where he's higher than 30 let me know.

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