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[paulpressey25]

Think we'd all take Masai as our number one choice.

But barring that, there is an interesting two-for opportunity out there to hire Donn Nelson and Carlisle.

[LuessiT]

Cupboard bare

This is why you need a crazed genius type guy to take over as GM, and sell the owners on an out of the box set of moves this summer. You really only have Mids and Jrue to work with in trades, and that will take some serious brain power.

Losing Donte, to what appears to be a torn achilles, is just the final nail in the asset coffin.

We have to start flipping players to fill up the cup board again. Sell high and buy low. Imo you definately listen to offers for Middleton & Lopez (not that his value is particularly high but it's only going to get lower) and you put your feelers out for players that are being sold low like CJ McCollum and possibly Zach LaVine on a grand scale (and a lot of other players on a lower scale).

There also needs to be changes in terms of roster construction. Giannis is a center imo and we should be looking to transition to that, wether that is now or a few years down the road. We should be looking for a starting level PJ Tucker type next to him. Someone who can take the tough bruiser assignments Giannis wants nothing to do with in the regular season, who can play team D and shoot the 3 (hopefully at a higher volume and clip than PJ) and who can set screens to free up our shooters.
Next, we should be looking to add a player that excels as a ball handler in the PnR. Arguably there aren't many players available with that skillset within our price range, but we should be looking nonetheless. Maybe there is such a player already on our roster (Jrue, Middleton) but if not besides the obvious targets like Lillard and Curry I'm mostly looking at CJ. He's someone who excels with the ball in his hands but lacks opportunity in Portland. Given his price tag, he's a decent option.
And then we need to change our playstyle. More screens, more player movement, more shooters (especially on the move), less ball stoppers like Lopez and Portis.

[emunney]

We should call Cleveland about Darius Garland.

[LuessiT]

We should call Cleveland about Darius Garland.

Love, love, love him but how? Feel like they want youngish assets. Best way I can think to get a player for rebuilding assets is:

To MIL: Wiggins, player X
To GS: Middleton
To Team Y: #6, Wiseman

Now Cleveland probably has no interest in Wiseman as they're looking intent on paying Allen and there are reports they're looking to to trade Sexton over Garland, but this framework should work in general.

[Fotis St]

Just hire Obradovic right now and as I have posted before ... have the balls to fire Bud even if we win the Championship.

[emunney]

We should call Cleveland about Darius Garland.

Love, love, love him but how? Feel like they want youngish assets. Best way I can think to get a player for rebuilding assets is:

To MIL: Wiggins, player X
To GS: Middleton
To Team Y: #6, Wiseman

Now Cleveland probably has no interest in Wiseman as they're looking intent on paying Allen and there are reports they're looking to to trade Sexton over Garland, but this framework should work in general.

Take Love off their hands? Not sure how to make it work, just know he'd be a lot cheaper than the other guys who fit the mold of what I want (Steph, Dame).

[DingleJerry]

We should call Cleveland about Darius Garland.

Love, love, love him but how? Feel like they want youngish assets. Best way I can think to get a player for rebuilding assets is:

To MIL: Wiggins, player X
To GS: Middleton
To Team Y: #6, Wiseman

Now Cleveland probably has no interest in Wiseman as they're looking intent on paying Allen and there are reports they're looking to to trade Sexton over Garland, but this framework should work in general.

There's been Love to Por for CJ type framed deals where maybe we can swoop in and get one of Garland/Sexton since why would Cle need 3 of the same type guy. I'd take either of Garland or Sexton and hope there is a Mitchell/Murray type leap to come from them. OF course, we'd actually have to run an offense that includes a PG and ball screens though.

[LuessiT]

We should call Cleveland about Darius Garland.

Love, love, love him but how? Feel like they want youngish assets. Best way I can think to get a player for rebuilding assets is:

To MIL: Wiggins, player X
To GS: Middleton
To Team Y: #6, Wiseman

Now Cleveland probably has no interest in Wiseman as they're looking intent on paying Allen and there are reports they're looking to to trade Sexton over Garland, but this framework should work in general.

Take Love off their hands? Not sure how to make it work, just know he'd be a lot cheaper than the other guys who fit the mold of what I want (Steph, Dame).

From what I've heard (which is like trade deadline old) Cleveland isn't willing to pay to get off Love. They thought they were securing an asset when they resigned him and they'd rather ride it out. He's probably a buyout candidate. I'm fine taking him btw, don't think it happens though.

[LuessiT]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

[WeekapaugGroove]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

Sure but I'm not sure why Toronto would do that. Especially is Donte really does have an achilles tear.

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[DingleJerry]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

Doesn't excite me. But after trying a bunch of other avenues and striking out, I probably do it. We're very limited in our assets and finding this skillset to fit with Brook's contract as the trade centerpiece (and a team that would actually have a use for Brook) isn't easy.

[slos]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

I'm thinking let Masai take that decision

[StickeeFingaz]

Lol why do people think Donte has a torn achilles? He jogged/hopped off the court after the injury and it was announced he had surgery to repair a torn ligament in his ankle. Jesus Christ.

[LuessiT]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

Sure but I'm not sure why Toronto would do that. Especially is Donte really does have an achilles tear.

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They would do that cause they're about to resign Gary Trent Jr., they'll probably resign Lowry if they can and they're rebuilding. Brook would be going to a third team for additional assets, probably Charlotte or Boston. It's not my suggestion, I just found it interesting cause he's certainly not a target I had on my mind.

[RiotPunch]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

I really don't think it's enough, but I would do it in a nanosecond. Love FVV, he'd have the biggest set of gonads on the team by a mile.

[LuessiT]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

I really don't think it's enough, but I would do it in a nanosecond. Love FVV, he'd have the biggest set of gonads on the team by a mile.

Not my suggestion so I'm not going super deep into value debates. Some are saying Boston would send #16 and TT for Lopez so the pick could be heading to Toronto. Alternatively 2 2nds and cap relief via Charlotte.

I'm generally surprised how high other teams' fans are valueing Lopez. Leads me to believe even more that we should sell, regardless of the season outcome. If he's just sitting behind the line shooting 3's and setting screens, we might as well get a smaller guy in his stead that is an actual threat from 3 and not a liability on the perimeter.

[RiotPunch]

How do you feel about #31, DDV & Brook for Fred VanVleet, which is getting discussed on the T&T board. VanVleet would be an additional floor spacer and add further toughness along with adding another ball handler.

I really don't think it's enough, but I would do it in a nanosecond. Love FVV, he'd have the biggest set of gonads on the team by a mile.

Not my suggestion so I'm not going super deep into value debates. Some are saying Boston would send #16 and TT for Lopez so the pick could be heading to Toronto. Alternatively 2 2nds and cap relief via Charlotte.

I'm generally surprised how high other teams' fans are valueing Lopez. Leads me to believe even more that we should sell, regardless of the season outcome. If he's just sitting behind the line shooting 3's and setting screens, we might as well get a smaller guy in his stead that is an actual threat from 3 and not a liability on the perimeter.

A mid 1st and neutral filler is quite good for Brook too. I hope that is close to correct!

[LuessiT]

I really don't think it's enough, but I would do it in a nanosecond. Love FVV, he'd have the biggest set of gonads on the team by a mile.

Not my suggestion so I'm not going super deep into value debates. Some are saying Boston would send #16 and TT for Lopez so the pick could be heading to Toronto. Alternatively 2 2nds and cap relief via Charlotte.

I'm generally surprised how high other teams' fans are valueing Lopez. Leads me to believe even more that we should sell, regardless of the season outcome. If he's just sitting behind the line shooting 3's and setting screens, we might as well get a smaller guy in his stead that is an actual threat from 3 and not a liability on the perimeter.

A mid 1st and neutral filler is quite good for Brook too. I hope that is close to correct!

Not sure if TT is neutral (even if expiring) but yeah it's good.

[jakecronus8]

We should call Cleveland about Darius Garland.

Love, love, love him but how? Feel like they want youngish assets. Best way I can think to get a player for rebuilding assets is:

To MIL: Wiggins, player X
To GS: Middleton
To Team Y: #6, Wiseman

Now Cleveland probably has no interest in Wiseman as they're looking intent on paying Allen and there are reports they're looking to to trade Sexton over Garland, but this framework should work in general.

There's been Love to Por for CJ type framed deals where maybe we can swoop in and get one of Garland/Sexton since why would Cle need 3 of the same type guy. I'd take either of Garland or Sexton and hope there is a Mitchell/Murray type leap to come from them. OF course, we'd actually have to run an offense that includes a PG and ball screens though.

If golden state were willing to give #6 and Wiseman in exchange for Middleton and having to take on Wiggins I’d just take the swing without a third team.

[RiotPunch]

Love, love, love him but how? Feel like they want youngish assets. Best way I can think to get a player for rebuilding assets is:

To MIL: Wiggins, player X
To GS: Middleton
To Team Y: #6, Wiseman

Now Cleveland probably has no interest in Wiseman as they're looking intent on paying Allen and there are reports they're looking to to trade Sexton over Garland, but this framework should work in general.

There's been Love to Por for CJ type framed deals where maybe we can swoop in and get one of Garland/Sexton since why would Cle need 3 of the same type guy. I'd take either of Garland or Sexton and hope there is a Mitchell/Murray type leap to come from them. OF course, we'd actually have to run an offense that includes a PG and ball screens though.

If golden state were willing to give #6 and Wiseman in exchange for Middleton and having to take on Wiggins I’d just take the swing without a third team.

But Wiseman is not very good, and might be okay, but not for awhile.