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Re: The Finals Game 6: We are the Champions my friend(s)! 

Post#2001 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:07 pm

HKPackFan wrote:
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HKPackFan wrote:This was a monster statline was from a bucks player during one of the ECFs Games.

33pts 4 boards 10assits. 2 steals 1block.
14/25 56%.

Who was it?


Without cheating it was Jrue, but possibly Khris. Jrue had that huge Game 5 I believe (as did Lopez).

Jrue's roller-coaster shooting aside, his defense and his assisting (I think he averaged nearly 11 for the playoffs) were huge.



Winner winner chicken dinner! Shockingly it was game 1 fresh off a terrible shooting series vs the nets he was in fire game one. Unfortunately, no one else could hit a shot. He was 5/12 from three and the only one to hit more than one three.

Bucks lost by 2-3pts so if just one other player could hit a jump shot we don't go down 0-1 early.

We remember Jrue for his awful shooting that playoff run, but forget he had some hot nights too.

I don't think people on here overlook when Holiday is a positive. He made huge plays and we wouldn't have won the finals without him. It was worth it cause we won, but my god we would be arguing who we should trade him for right now on negative value if we either lost to the Nets or if Trae isn't hurt (big if considering we factored Giannis being hurt so can't have it both ways I guess).

He was horribly inconsistent and could've easily been the scrap goat for the playoffs. He allowed Trae to score 48 in that game 1 loss (though he was eating up the Lopez switch), Game 3 against the nets with our backs against the wall we won by 3 despite him being 4/14 in 45 min, Game 1 he was 7/19 in a game that a nail biter going into half, etc. Imagine we lost Game 7 with Holiday going 5/23? This board would be over him so quickly. I'm not nit-picking either. He shot 41% from the field and 30% from 3 on 17 shots a game as the 3rd option. That just isn't good enough.

Maybe it isn't fair to expect that much from him but dude is getting paid the max (22nd highest paid guy in the league). You can't have a guy making that much money being so inconsistent when it matters.
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Post#2002 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:14 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:Where do we purchase our repeat champions gears and Boogie finals MVP merch?

Won't lie, im regretting buying a bunch of stuff that says 2x NBA champions. After watching the Nets play this week, I'm feeling more confident.
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Post#2003 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:56 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Where do we purchase our repeat champions gears and Boogie finals MVP merch?

Won't lie, im regretting buying a bunch of stuff that says 2x NBA champions. After watching the Nets play this week, I'm feeling more confident.

They may get there, but if Golden State is healthy I don’t see anyone beating them 4 times
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Post#2004 » by mediocrityrules » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:06 pm

Ah good, I can post again now we're past page 100. I was avoiding it in case anyone else wanted in. Didn't want to hog the real estate.
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Post#2005 » by BradMKE » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:32 am

Cyber Monday discount on the newly released official championship coffee table book:

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$35 + $6 shipping.

Bucks Pro Shop sells it for $50.
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Post#2006 » by buckboy » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:56 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Where do we purchase our repeat champions gears and Boogie finals MVP merch?

Won't lie, im regretting buying a bunch of stuff that says 2x NBA champions. After watching the Nets play this week, I'm feeling more confident.

They may get there, but if Golden State is healthy I don’t see anyone beating them 4 times


I'd much rather play Golden St than Phoenix.
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Post#2007 » by sidney lanier » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:35 pm

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Maybe it isn't fair to expect that much from him but dude is getting paid the max (22nd highest paid guy in the league). You can't have a guy making that much money being so inconsistent when it matters.


When it mattered, he showed up. And his salary ranks right behind that of Ben Simmons, so be happy with what we have.

Those of us who follow the NBA closely sometimes fall into the trap of expecting flat, consistent performance game in and game out. That's not a realistic expectation, and it's probably based on an overreliance on the statistical record.

The NBA's highest paid player, Steph Curry, shot 4 for 21 last night with two or three airballs.
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Post#2008 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:09 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Won't lie, im regretting buying a bunch of stuff that says 2x NBA champions. After watching the Nets play this week, I'm feeling more confident.

They may get there, but if Golden State is healthy I don’t see anyone beating them 4 times


I'd much rather play Golden St than Phoenix.

We handled Phoenix pretty well last season. Why should it be different this season?
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Post#2009 » by drew881 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:51 pm

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buckboy wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:They may get there, but if Golden State is healthy I don’t see anyone beating them 4 times


I'd much rather play Golden St than Phoenix.

We handled Phoenix pretty well last season. Why should it be different this season?


I imagine guys like Ayton, Bridges, and Johnson with a year of finals experience will be improved.

Getting way ahead of myself, but I can’t decide which would be more fun:

1. Beating Curry in the finals and gaining that legitimacy of beating a big market.
2. Demoralizing Paul by beating him again in the finals. It would be very Bulls like where they squashed Stockton/Malone’s chances at the tail end of their careers.
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Post#2010 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:25 pm

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Maybe it isn't fair to expect that much from him but dude is getting paid the max (22nd highest paid guy in the league). You can't have a guy making that much money being so inconsistent when it matters.


When it mattered, he showed up. And his salary ranks right behind that of Ben Simmons, so be happy with what we have.

Those of us who follow the NBA closely sometimes fall into the trap of expecting flat, consistent performance game in and game out. That's not a realistic expectation, and it's probably based on an overreliance on the statistical record.

The NBA's highest paid player, Steph Curry, shot 4 for 21 last night with two or three airballs.

I think you ignored most of my points cause I don't understand how key games in round 2 and 3 aren't "When it mattered"

And again, I wasn't the one cherry picking. I was pointing out he had a lot of bad games and his performance overall wasn't good enough. It wasn't just one game like Curry.
He shot 41% from the field and 30% from 3 on 17 shots a game as the 3rd option. That just isn't good enough.
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Post#2011 » by sidney lanier » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:33 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Maybe it isn't fair to expect that much from him but dude is getting paid the max (22nd highest paid guy in the league). You can't have a guy making that much money being so inconsistent when it matters.


When it mattered, he showed up. And his salary ranks right behind that of Ben Simmons, so be happy with what we have.

Those of us who follow the NBA closely sometimes fall into the trap of expecting flat, consistent performance game in and game out. That's not a realistic expectation, and it's probably based on an overreliance on the statistical record.

The NBA's highest paid player, Steph Curry, shot 4 for 21 last night with two or three airballs.

I think you ignored most of my points cause I don't understand how key games in round 2 and 3 aren't "When it mattered"

And again, I wasn't the one cherry picking. I was pointing out he had a lot of bad games and his performance overall wasn't good enough. It wasn't just one game like Curry.
He shot 41% from the field and 30% from 3 on 17 shots a game as the 3rd option. That just isn't good enough.


Absolutely true that Holiday sucked eggs at times during the playoff run. I'm not disputing that. But if you're going to play the "when it mattered" card, you must acknowledge that he was instrumental in achieving the only outcome that really mattered.
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Post#2012 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:34 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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I'd much rather play Golden St than Phoenix.

We handled Phoenix pretty well last season. Why should it be different this season?

Reasons for it being different:
-Ayton will be better/stronger-
-they had no backup big once saric went down
-they seem to gel even better this year (went from like 25->4th in pace)
-they played us pretty damn well. Down 6 going into the 4th in Game 4 down 2-1. We were down big in game 5 and who knows how it would have turned out if Jrue's strip was called a foul on booker instead of a Giannis dunk. It's not like we swept there ass like the Heat.
-Don't think Paul was 100% (Is he ever?)

Add in that even if the Suns are the same, I'm not sold on GSW. Feel when things get tight Giannis can score at will. Who would stop him.

I don't think there is a clear link weak when you are talking contenders (all are good teams), but teams can have preferences.
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Post#2013 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:42 pm

sidney lanier wrote:
Absolutely true that Holiday sucked eggs at times during the playoff run. I'm not disputing that. But if you're going to play the "when it mattered" card, you must acknowledge that he was instrumental in achieving the only outcome that really mattered.

Yeah, I said we probably don't win without him. Probably arguing in circles but we had several games that really, really mattered that could have easily ended our season where Jrue just didn't play well enough. He just lucked out that our season didn't end in round 2/3. I'm just not going overweight him being 'clutch' play like him stripping Booker when he was 5/23 in a Game 7 of the de facto ECF a couple weeks earlier. To me, "When it matters" isn't just the last second shot or last game, it was the whole run vs the Nets/Suns when our season was on the line.
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Post#2014 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:54 pm

So the league went hard at the Bucks last year for tampering....and the Bulls and Heat get lesser penalties

And nothing to the Pels and Raps for their part in this
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Post#2015 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:55 pm

I thought the league sent a memo to all teams after they hit the Bucks last year that next offenses will be penalized harsher....
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Post#2016 » by buckboy » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:58 pm

Ruzious wrote:
buckboy wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:They may get there, but if Golden State is healthy I don’t see anyone beating them 4 times


I'd much rather play Golden St than Phoenix.

We handled Phoenix pretty well last season. Why should it be different this season?


Because I think they're better than Golden St. Especially against Giannis. Golden has absolutely no hope for guarding him.

It really comes down to the Bucks' health though. There is zero doubt in my mind that the Bucks are the best team in the NBA if healthy. Big if though.
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Post#2017 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:26 pm

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I'd much rather play Golden St than Phoenix.

We handled Phoenix pretty well last season. Why should it be different this season?


Because I think they're better than Golden St. Especially against Giannis. Golden has absolutely no hope for guarding him.

It really comes down to the Bucks' health though. There is zero doubt in my mind that the Bucks are the best team in the NBA if healthy. Big if though.

Interesting responses. I would bet on Green (and then Looney) having a better chance of slowing down Giannis than Ayton or anyone else on Phoenix. Giannis had his best series and best game against Phoenix. And Klay Thompson's return is going to make GSW that much better.
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Post#2018 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:01 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:I thought the league sent a memo to all teams after they hit the Bucks last year that next offenses will be penalized harsher....

yes, and by harsher they meant softer of course.
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Post#2019 » by buckboy » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:05 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:We handled Phoenix pretty well last season. Why should it be different this season?


Because I think they're better than Golden St. Especially against Giannis. Golden has absolutely no hope for guarding him.

It really comes down to the Bucks' health though. There is zero doubt in my mind that the Bucks are the best team in the NBA if healthy. Big if though.

Interesting responses. I would bet on Green (and then Looney) having a better chance of slowing down Giannis than Ayton or anyone else on Phoenix. Giannis had his best series and best game against Phoenix. And Klay Thompson's return is going to make GSW that much better.


I personally don't see GS keeping this up. Health will be an issue for them as well.

Also, Ayton has a far better chance guarding Giannis than anyone on GS. I know he destroyed him last year, but Phoenix is a better team than they were last year. Fortunately, so are the Bucks (assuming health again).
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Post#2020 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:19 pm

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Because I think they're better than Golden St. Especially against Giannis. Golden has absolutely no hope for guarding him.

It really comes down to the Bucks' health though. There is zero doubt in my mind that the Bucks are the best team in the NBA if healthy. Big if though.

Interesting responses. I would bet on Green (and then Looney) having a better chance of slowing down Giannis than Ayton or anyone else on Phoenix. Giannis had his best series and best game against Phoenix. And Klay Thompson's return is going to make GSW that much better.


I personally don't see GS keeping this up. Health will be an issue for them as well.

Also, Ayton has a far better chance guarding Giannis than anyone on GS. I know he destroyed him last year, but Phoenix is a better team than they were last year. Fortunately, so are the Bucks (assuming health again).

We agree on most things, but that's one that we'll have to agree to disagree. Green's on a mission to win DPOY, and I think he's got a good chance to finish second to Giannis, and Looney is a heckuva defender.
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