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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#501 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:04 am

I've been on medication for most if the last week related to Lopez and I'm now of the mindset that as long as he comes back post deadline and works himself up the way tucker did last year that's all we ever need from him.

That doesn't change the fact we need a big body on the roster. Considering how low cost and accessible they are I'd go for a high upside guy bum that hasn't gotten burn yet much and see if we can win a lottery ticket. It's not like we're dependent on making the playoffs with him but it takes load off giannis to have him around
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Post#502 » by raferfenix » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:17 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:I've been on medication for most if the last week related to Lopez and I'm now of the mindset that as long as he comes back post deadline and works himself up the way tucker did last year that's all we ever need from him.

That doesn't change the fact we need a big body on the roster. Considering how low cost and accessible they are I'd go for a high upside guy bum that hasn't gotten burn yet much and see if we can win a lottery ticket. It's not like we're dependent on making the playoffs with him but it takes load off giannis to have him around


Or Horst plans to just sign RoLo after he gets bought out (or when Hammond’s asking price gets low enough to pick him up for Semi + Hood).

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#503 » by giannis and 1 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:56 am

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giannis and 1 wrote:How about Dieng for a low cost option?


I like Dieng a lot for what he does, but he's in the roation in Atlanta. We should be looking at players that either seriously improve our playoff rotation (which assuming everyone is healthy Dieng does not) and trade value for them or look for players that can't crack a rotation and trade our 'trash' for their 'trash' without value. I don't think Dieng can be had without incentive and I wouldn't want to give up incentive to get him.

I mean what is incentive though? I wouldn't care to throw away a 2nd round pick, those are easily re-acquirable.

Of course, if they want DDV or Nwora, I would tell them to **** right off.

I think Dieng would give us some injury insurance for Brook, because Portis isn't cutting it in terms of rim protection. It doesn't seriously improve our roster but we need center depth pretty badly imo.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#504 » by giannis and 1 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:58 am

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It's never a popular opinion, and it gets further away with every injury/setback and possibly even further away when he's actually healthy/playing well, but you watch Porzingis put together streaks like he has the past couple weeks and it's hard to not want to pair him and Giannis.


Porzingis can't guard the paint. Turner can.

There's gotta be someone between Dingus Pingus and Turner that we can get to help with rim protection.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#505 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:30 pm

giannis and 1 wrote:
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giannis and 1 wrote:How about Dieng for a low cost option?


I like Dieng a lot for what he does, but he's in the roation in Atlanta. We should be looking at players that either seriously improve our playoff rotation (which assuming everyone is healthy Dieng does not) and trade value for them or look for players that can't crack a rotation and trade our 'trash' for their 'trash' without value. I don't think Dieng can be had without incentive and I wouldn't want to give up incentive to get him.

I mean what is incentive though? I wouldn't care to throw away a 2nd round pick, those are easily re-acquirable.

Of course, if they want DDV or Nwora, I would tell them to **** right off.

I think Dieng would give us some injury insurance for Brook, because Portis isn't cutting it in terms of rim protection. It doesn't seriously improve our roster but we need center depth pretty badly imo.


The defense had been very good with Portis at center. He isn't a rim protector, but that's not a huge factor if we're not playing the drop defense, which we rarely use anymore.

What we need is a reserve 4 with length. Someone to guard KD effectively. The Bucks supposedly were interested in Jarred Vanderbilt, and a player like him would be perfect.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#506 » by WRau1 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:12 pm

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Post#507 » by Bernman » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:27 pm

raferfenix wrote:If we trade Donte do we have Pat play more backup SG (instead of small ball 4) and just run with Hill as our only other decent backup 1?

Trading Donte creates another hole.

Hill’s play has been way encouraging but I don’t think he should be clocking this big of minutes through the doldrums of the regular season.

I could see a deal out there that is worth it for Donte but if it’s a low value return then I could also see us dangling Nwora and whatever seconds we have left instead.


It's the conundrum because in our situation we've likely backed ourselves in to trading a player who'd help us now for someone who'd help us more.

A 3&d big win helps us more than another point & 2. We just won a title w/ Tucker starting and Teague as backup 1. Now it's upgraded to hill.

You have to give up something to get it. Nwora & a 2nd doesn't have significant present & future value. So we'd likely get little for it. however, I never expected to nab Allen for that package, so if they can pull a rabbit of a hat twice, great.
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Post#508 » by jschligs » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:35 pm

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Post#509 » by raferfenix » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:04 pm

Bernman wrote:It's the conundrum because in our situation we've likely backed ourselves in to trading a player who'd help us now for someone who'd help us more.

A 3&d big win helps us more than another point & 2. We just won a title w/ Tucker starting and Teague as backup 1. Now it's upgraded to hill.

You have to give up something to get it. Nwora & a 2nd doesn't have significant present & future value. So we'd likely get little for it. however, I never expected to nab Allen for that package, so if they can pull a rabbit of a hat twice, great.


If the Bucks preferred a 3&D big to Donte we could have just kept Tucker though.

If the luxury tax were the only issue we could have dealt Donte to a team with a trade exception and a future protected pick or the like.

Of course the Bucks could prefer a 3&D big other than PJ (or a longer term fit), however, based on Horst’s comments about trying to play faster with more creators I think it’s more they didn’t want to spend significant salary on that kind of player — if only after we secured Portis as a third big man.
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Post#510 » by Bernman » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:47 pm

raferfenix wrote:If the Bucks preferred a 3&D big to Donte we could have just kept Tucker though.

If the luxury tax were the only issue we could have dealt Donte to a team with a trade exception and a future protected pick or the like.

Of course the Bucks could prefer a 3&D big other than PJ (or a longer term fit), however, based on Horst’s comments about trying to play faster with more creators I think it’s more they didn’t want to spend significant salary on that kind of player — if only after we secured Portis as a third big man.


a. we're talking about what they should do, not will.
b. tucker's old & projected to decline over the course of the contract. was borderline last yr.
c. by their own admission, they didn't want to pay the tax for tucker. wouldn't have to if it's a salary swap.
d. donte needs to return 1st to recoup some value. subsequently can sell at closer to peak.
e. playoffs are halfcourt & nobody on our squad defends durant, lebron, etc. + preserves offensive legs
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

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Post#512 » by PG Graveyard » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:31 pm

Is Brook ok?
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Post#513 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:32 pm

That was my first thought. Things can't be going as planned there if they are signing him now

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Post#514 » by Prez » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:32 pm

Let’s go!!! Pretty sure he’s done but would be so dope if we revived his career
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Post#515 » by MrHoneycutt » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:32 pm

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Post#516 » by emunney » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:32 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:Is Brook ok?


I love it but I thought this immediately also.
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Post#517 » by Matches Malone » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:32 pm

I love this move! But I'm very worried on Brook now.
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Post#518 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:33 pm

Hopefully just insurance and not directly related to any new negative developments for Brook.
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Post#520 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:34 pm

Also, how washed is Boogie now? I recall him being not good the last few times I saw him play.

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