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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#22 » by DrWood » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:10 am

MiltownHawkeye wrote:Pat's now shooting 40% from 3 on 7 attempts a game. It's been really fun to see him go from 9th-11th guy earlier in his Bucks career to a genuine starter-level 2. The fact we have him on a bargain contract that everyone hated when it was signed makes it that much sweeter.

The increase in 3% is great. But he's always been a 7th or 8th guy for the bucks before this year.
And the thing about the contract is that they F-ed it up, originally. And then added a year and lots of money.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#23 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:17 am

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MiltownHawkeye wrote:Pat's now shooting 40% from 3 on 7 attempts a game. It's been really fun to see him go from 9th-11th guy earlier in his Bucks career to a genuine starter-level 2. The fact we have him on a bargain contract that everyone hated when it was signed makes it that much sweeter.

The increase in 3% is great. But he's always been a 7th or 8th guy for the bucks before this year.
And the thing about the contract is that they F-ed it up, originally. And then added a year and lots of money.


Weird post. A 7th-8th guy is worth a $5 mil per year contract, and that year they tacked on is irrelevant because it's a player option that won't be picked up. You can say it was botched, but it wasn't done so in a way that was ever gonna screw the Bucks.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#24 » by DrWood » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:24 am

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MiltownHawkeye wrote:Pat's now shooting 40% from 3 on 7 attempts a game. It's been really fun to see him go from 9th-11th guy earlier in his Bucks career to a genuine starter-level 2. The fact we have him on a bargain contract that everyone hated when it was signed makes it that much sweeter.

The increase in 3% is great. But he's always been a 7th or 8th guy for the bucks before this year.
And the thing about the contract is that they F-ed it up, originally. And then added a year and lots of money.


Weird post. A 7th-8th guy is worth a $5 mil per year contract, and that year they tacked on is irrelevant because it's a player option that won't be picked up. You can say it was botched, but it wasn't done so in a way that was ever gonna screw the Bucks.

Really weird post.
I was making the point that the animus against the contract was due the way it went down. Some people would have quibbled about the $ if the first contract offer never happened, but a cheaper, two-year contract influenced how strong that reaction was.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#25 » by H2tObes » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:47 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Can't say I would mind if we could fast forward a couple of months of regular season

I enjoy the stress free games, this is the first time in my life I truly do not give a **** if the Bucks win or lose any regular season game. Just relishing in the championship feeling
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#26 » by PANDEMONEUM » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:55 am

just wanted to say,
im still here and still watching every second.

i wanted another PG and C instead of hood and semi.
and its showing thats exactly what we needed.

imo, we need another C now, and to protect against not getting Brook back at all.
even if its for 16mins a game.
we need a big man to rebound, blockout, swat shots, use 4 fouls and jsut be big around the rim.

how tho?
donte, semi, hood, nwora, gerogios, not alot of $ or quality to get quality back
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Post#27 » by LuessiT » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:29 am

We're going to be the top seed in the East in no time.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#28 » by soxperry » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:53 am

DrWood wrote:In the game thread a couple of posters mentioned that Nwora should shoot more. He took the second-most shots on the team. And made only 5 of 13 shots. In what world would him taking more shots be a good thing?


If there were a world where we just won a title and didnt feel pressured to maximize our playoff seed.. and instead wanted to force feed our only young asset that shows any legitimate promise to see if he can become a legitimate playoff rotation guy...that would be the one.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#29 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:10 pm

DrWood wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
DrWood wrote:The increase in 3% is great. But he's always been a 7th or 8th guy for the bucks before this year.
And the thing about the contract is that they F-ed it up, originally. And then added a year and lots of money.


Weird post. A 7th-8th guy is worth a $5 mil per year contract, and that year they tacked on is irrelevant because it's a player option that won't be picked up. You can say it was botched, but it wasn't done so in a way that was ever gonna screw the Bucks.

Really weird post.
I was making the point that the animus against the contract was due the way it went down. Some people would have quibbled about the $ if the first contract offer never happened, but a cheaper, two-year contract influenced how strong that reaction was.


The point is the people who complained about the contract in either version were wrong.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#30 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm

PANDEMONEUM wrote:just wanted to say,
im still here and still watching every second.

i wanted another PG and C instead of hood and semi.
and its showing thats exactly what we needed.

imo, we need another C now, and to protect against not getting Brook back at all.
even if its for 16mins a game.
we need a big man to rebound, blockout, swat shots, use 4 fouls and jsut be big around the rim.

how tho?
donte, semi, hood, nwora, gerogios, not alot of $ or quality to get quality back


If we don't get Brook back, then Brook will be traded. No way they leave his $13 million on the luxury tax ledger if he's out for the year. It'll be Brook and a bunch of seconds for a cheaper serviceable PF or C.

Brook will be back though.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#31 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:01 pm

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Post#32 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:07 pm

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Louder for the people who forced themselves to panic after the 6-8 start.

Not saying the panic was justified but are we really going to hang out hat on a arbitrary small sample size where 2 of the games were against Orl, 1 against the thunder, and 1 against the LBJ-less Lakers?
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#33 » by buckboy » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:17 pm

What happened to 4-10?

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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#34 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:19 pm

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JimmyTheKid wrote:
Prez wrote:
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Louder for the people who forced themselves to panic after the 6-8 start.

Not saying the panic was justified but are we really going to hang out hat on a arbitrary small sample size where 2 of the games were against Orl, 1 against the thunder, and 1 against the LBJ-less Lakers?


Can we not hang our hat on being the defending champs and bringing all but one key contributor back to this year's team? Shouldn't that fact alone have bought the guys a little time before the fan base reaches for the panic button? I mean its been obvious why we've started slow. Personnel. Players that will never sniff a meaningful postseason minute have been playing big minutes to get us through this injury ravaged start. That tweet perfectly encapsulates where this team truly is though. And thats primed to make another run at this thing.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#35 » by Shaffty » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:26 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
DrWood wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Weird post. A 7th-8th guy is worth a $5 mil per year contract, and that year they tacked on is irrelevant because it's a player option that won't be picked up. You can say it was botched, but it wasn't done so in a way that was ever gonna screw the Bucks.

Really weird post.
I was making the point that the animus against the contract was due the way it went down. Some people would have quibbled about the $ if the first contract offer never happened, but a cheaper, two-year contract influenced how strong that reaction was.


The point is the people who complained about the contract in either version were wrong.



people who complained about the actual contract are idiots, but it was a legitiment mistake that we at 'RealGM' should make fun of when a REAL GM makes the mistake lol
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Post#36 » by Prez » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:58 pm

Giannis/Jrue/Khris as a 3 man lineup has a +26.3 net rating when none of the scrubs (Semi, Hood, Robinson, etc) are on court. Small sample size (75 minutes) but it’s pretty clear just watching them how good they are, and that’s with them not really even going that hard or playing that well individually.

Bucks are stupid good when they have their real rotation guys on the floor, even one of Brook/Donte returning eliminates most of the scrub minutes that are killing them
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Post#37 » by Prez » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:01 pm

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This is where Brook returning is going to dramatically change things, just giving Bobby the help he needs defensively and on the boards when Giannis isn’t out there.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#38 » by craig » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pm

DrWood wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:Pat's now shooting 40% from 3 on 7 attempts a game. It's been really fun to see him go from 9th-11th guy earlier in his Bucks career to a genuine starter-level 2. The fact we have him on a bargain contract that everyone hated when it was signed makes it that much sweeter.

The increase in 3% is great. But he's always been a 7th or 8th guy for the bucks before this year.
And the thing about the contract is that they F-ed it up, originally. And then added a year and lots of money.


The increase in 3% is indeed great.
*It's true that he was sometimes used as a 7th/8th guy, but not always.
*And whether as a 7th/8th or a 9-11 guy, he didn't always play like an excellent one. Particularly during windows when the 3 wasn't that good.
*But the way he's shooting and playing now, he's definitely an asset in the role he plays.
*I get the argument that his contract may have been mishandled, and he might have hypothetically become an even better value-per-dollar steal than he is now. But even if one faults the operation and process, there is still zero question but that he is a tremendous value, and a tremendous value-per-dollar super-steal, under the contract that he actually has.
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Re: PG Orlando: Bucks Cruise to 4th Straight 

Post#39 » by chonestown » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pm

Hill has looked lively the last several games. Not washed George Hill is an asset. I applaud this development.

Horts has proven to move on from mistakes and I expect Semi gone. Kurt Thomas homecoming would be a heartwarming holiday story, but I'll settle for a hungry scrap-heap addition.
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Post#40 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:07 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Louder for the people who forced themselves to panic after the 6-8 start.

Not saying the panic was justified but are we really going to hang out hat on a arbitrary small sample size where 2 of the games were against Orl, 1 against the thunder, and 1 against the LBJ-less Lakers?


Can we not hang our hat on being the defending champs and bringing all but one key contributor back to this year's team? Shouldn't that fact alone have bought the guys a little time before the fan base reaches for the panic button? I mean its been obvious why we've started slow. Personnel. Players that will never sniff a meaningful postseason minute have been playing big minutes to get us through this injury ravaged start. That tweet perfectly encapsulates where this team truly is though. And thats primed to make another run at this thing.

Oh we can definitely hang our hat on the championship. Hell it says it right on my hat. I'm just nit-picking on a small sample size that includes margin of victory right after a 30+ win over a bad, bad magic team. I find the tweet meaningless :D

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