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Not going to win many games when you have to play Mamu 20+ minutes. He tries hard, and gives you a couple hustle plays, but he sucks.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Wonder if he had too many missed assignments or analytics were off the chart bad on d. Looked solid the last few games. Maybe a statement that you need to play d?
You are correct, their defensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts bad.
But their offensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts good, right?
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I actually thought we were better with Mamu on the court. He struggles getting to the rim but he was fine otherwiserilamann wrote:Not going to win many games when you have to play Mamu 20+ minutes. He tries hard, and gives you a couple hustle plays, but he sucks.
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rilamann wrote:Not going to win many games when you have to play Mamu 20+ minutes. He tries hard, and gives you a couple hustle plays, but he sucks.
Same with Nwora.
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I couldn't believe we were -5.5 when Giannis was sidelined. Never mind everyone else. Tor came in having won their last 3 by 48 against 3 non-tanking teams.
Tonight is the first time I have seen Nwora on the floor and not wanted to throw something at him. Still plenty of flubs but much better and looks like he found a role on the catch and shoot corner 3s.
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Tonight is the first time I have seen Nwora on the floor and not wanted to throw something at him. Still plenty of flubs but much better and looks like he found a role on the catch and shoot corner 3s.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Wonder if he had too many missed assignments or analytics were off the chart bad on d. Looked solid the last few games. Maybe a statement that you need to play d?
You are correct, their defensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts bad.
his Drtg was 102 (best on team) dbpm was 0.9 (only Giannis was higher (excluding delaurier). His on/off was +6.1 (only 3 players on team who were better and played more minutes than him).
Give me your arcane stat that shows me he was off the charts bad. Or admit you lied.
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HurricaneKid wrote:Tonight is the first time I have seen Nwora on the floor and not wanted to throw something at him. Still plenty of flubs but much better and looks like he found a role on the catch and shoot corner 3s.
He was 3-9 from 3, or below league average. It's good to manage your expectations, but he has proved nothing except he is a willing shooter.
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DrWood wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Wonder if he had too many missed assignments or analytics were off the chart bad on d. Looked solid the last few games. Maybe a statement that you need to play d?
You are correct, their defensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts bad.
his Drtg was 102 (best on team) dbpm was 0.9 (only Giannis was higher (excluding delaurier). His on/off was +6.1 (only 3 players on team who were better and played more minutes than him).
Give me your arcane stat that shows me he was off the charts bad. Or admit you lied.
No, your just using an inaccurate source, that's the bball reference rating, not what the opponent actually did. The correct number is 112.
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HurricaneKid wrote:I couldn't believe we were -5.5 when Giannis was sidelined. Never mind everyone else. Tor came in having won their last 3 by 48 against 3 non-tanking teams.
Tonight is the first time I have seen Nwora on the floor and not wanted to throw something at him. Still plenty of flubs but much better and looks like he found a role on the catch and shoot corner 3s.
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So you didn't like Nwora in his previous game when he had 23 points on just 11 shots?
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emunney wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Wonder if he had too many missed assignments or analytics were off the chart bad on d. Looked solid the last few games. Maybe a statement that you need to play d?
You are correct, their defensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts bad.
But their offensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts good, right?
The offensive rating was 6.5 points better and the defensive rating was off the charts .8 worse.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:DrWood wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:
You are correct, their defensive rating with him on the floor was off the charts bad.
his Drtg was 102 (best on team) dbpm was 0.9 (only Giannis was higher (excluding delaurier). His on/off was +6.1 (only 3 players on team who were better and played more minutes than him).
Give me your arcane stat that shows me he was off the charts bad. Or admit you lied.
No, your just using an inaccurate source, that's the bball reference rating, not what the opponent actually did. The correct number is 112.
What source are you using?
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The overall defensive metrics painted Boogie as a neutral-to-slight negative over his 287 minutes with us. But his rim protection numbers were pretty bad (64.6 FG% allowed within 6-feet) and Madden referenced on the LOB pod that the at-rim number (3-feet) was north of mid-70's, albeit on a small sample size. You could argue that the zone and aggressive hedging on P&R's did him no favors, but overall "off the charts bad" is pretty hyperbolic. His rebounding was stellar (12.6 per-36 and +3.6 team REB% while on the court) and definitely something we needed over the last few weeks.
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I've been optimistic about Hood's potential to resurrect his game given his history and length. But watching him for 25 minutes, even in a game where he shot the ball well, my optimism is gone.
Bucks fans, including myself, have been spoiled by watching uber athletes. If I had to pick a frontcourt player most likely to win a 50/50 loose ball, it's Giannis in a landslide. For the backcourt, I'm picking Bledsoe followed closely by Jrue. This isn't just Bucks players, I'm talking about the entire NBA.
Hood is completely on the other end of the spectrum with the likes of Marvin Williams. I'm ready to move on.
Bucks fans, including myself, have been spoiled by watching uber athletes. If I had to pick a frontcourt player most likely to win a 50/50 loose ball, it's Giannis in a landslide. For the backcourt, I'm picking Bledsoe followed closely by Jrue. This isn't just Bucks players, I'm talking about the entire NBA.
Hood is completely on the other end of the spectrum with the likes of Marvin Williams. I'm ready to move on.
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Nbawowy has our opp PPP*100 at 110.4 with Boogie on and 107.4 with him off. Hardly catastrophic. Meanwhile the offensive numbers are 118.7 on and 110.7 off. These numbers don't mean everything but they certainly shouldn't be cited as a reason to cut him from a minimum salary contract.
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drone3 wrote:I actually thought we were better with Mamu on the court. He struggles getting to the rim but he was fine otherwiserilamann wrote:Not going to win many games when you have to play Mamu 20+ minutes. He tries hard, and gives you a couple hustle plays, but he sucks.
Mamu was on the court for a big chunk of that 3rd quarter when we scored 11 points and he was a big reason why we only scored 11 points in the 3rd quarter. He's incredibly soft and timid when he has the ball around the basket and he can't consistently knock down an open jumper.
Offensively, Mamu makes the game harder for everyone who is on the court with him. He doesn't really do anything on defense that stands out. I get it, he's the classic white guy who tries hard and he might give you a couple hustle plays, so people are going to like him and overrate him, but he's a scrub.
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aboveAverage wrote:rilamann wrote:Not going to win many games when you have to play Mamu 20+ minutes. He tries hard, and gives you a couple hustle plays, but he sucks.
Same with Nwora.
Nwora actually kind of impressed me last night and I am not a Nwora guy at all, but I'll give a guy credit when he deserves it. Nowra is so inconsistent though, one game he'll look like a legit rotation player. Next game he'll look like hot trash. I don't know what to make of him. He might score 2 points and have a bunch of unforced turnovers, or he might go 5-6 on 3's.
At the end of the day the end of our bench sucks serious ass. Hood, Semi, Mamu and Nwora. These guys are horrible and should never play unless absolutely necessary due to guys being out. Which has obviously happened far too many times this season.
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The good outweighed the bad last night but Nwora still has too many of those straight up comical tunnel-vision moments. Those step-back 3's he launches when he gets the ball in transition with like, 18 seconds on the shot clock are basically wasted possessions. Even Marques had to laugh at the one possession where he had two wide open guys in the corners, but decided to dribble up to the FT line, stop and pivot, then throw up a sort of fading away, one-handed push shot that went in. Something along the lines of "Well, it's a good thing he made that..."