ATL - Embiid Returns

Post #1941 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon May 9, 2022 12:44 pm

I rip Harden all the time so I'll give him credit when he deserves it and he deserves it for last night's game. He was very good.

Profound23 · Post #1942 » by **Profound23** » Mon May 9, 2022 1:40 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I rip Harden all the time so I'll give him credit when he deserves it and he deserves it for last night's game. He was very good.

Yep, he was actually attacking the hoop instead of trying to create contact.

AussieBuck · Post #1943 » by **AussieBuck** » Mon May 9, 2022 2:23 pm

Philly can be real dangerous if Harden can play well enough to take Embiid back to a sub 30 USG defender. Still want them in the East finals though.

Ron Swanson · Post #1944 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon May 9, 2022 2:23 pm

Harden maybe had his best playoff 4th quarter ever last night, but we'll see if it was just a flash in the pan. He still doesn't have that same first-step and with Lowry cooked, Miami's back-court defense is actually pretty awful. They built a team this year for the purpose of slowing down Giannis, not slowing down a Harden/Embiid team.

BUCKnation · Post #1945 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon May 9, 2022 2:49 pm

Will anybody ever pay a one dimensional shooter ever again after Robinson and Bertans?

CharityStripe34 · Post #1946 » by **CharityStripe34** » Mon May 9, 2022 2:53 pm

Agree with that being Harden's best playoff moment. If he carries it over the Heat are in troube as Embiid gets more comfortable (on the ground). I like Embiid but damn the dude falls to the floor like a sack of potatoes.

Profound23 · Post #1947 » by **Profound23** » Mon May 9, 2022 3:09 pm

BUCKnation wrote:Will anybody ever pay a one dimensional shooter ever again after Robinson and Bertans?

And Joe Harris

BroncoBuck · Post #1948 » by **BroncoBuck** » Mon May 9, 2022 3:17 pm

I said it before the playoffs started, but Jokic winning the MVP over Embiid and Giannis is a real shame.

I get it, Murray missed the season, but Embiid played the whole year with the Simmons fiasco going on. Giannis won Finals MVP and came back this year even better.

The advanced stats nerds and the echo chamber they have created dropped the ball on this one.

coolhandluke121 · Post #1949 » by **coolhandluke121** » Mon May 9, 2022 3:39 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:I said it before the playoffs started, but Jokic winning the MVP over Embiid and Giannis is a real shame.

I get it, Murray missed the season, but Embiid played the whole year with the Simmons fiasco going on. Giannis won Finals MVP and came back this year even better.

The advanced stats nerds and the echo chamber they have created dropped the ball on this one.

Eh, you can make a case for any of the 3 but I don't think it's possible to drop the ball as long as you're choosing one of them. Dropping the ball is "Booker because BEST PLAYER ON BEST TEAM" or "Luka because TRIPLE-DOUBLES!"

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1950 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Mon May 9, 2022 3:41 pm

Prez wrote:Duncan Robinson just being totally out of Miami’s rotation entirely is kinda wild. Dudes in the first year of a $90 mil contract lol

If the Heat win it all this year, it is worth it. If not, heads should roll for their cap situation in a year or two.

TroyD92 · Post #1951 » by **TroyD92** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:05 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Prez wrote:Duncan Robinson just being totally out of Miami’s rotation entirely is kinda wild. Dudes in the first year of a $90 mil contract lol

If the Heat win it all this year, it is worth it. If not, heads should roll for their cap situation in a year or two.

He's not even playing. Its basically dead money how is that worth it lol

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1952 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:12 pm

TroyD92 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Prez wrote:Duncan Robinson just being totally out of Miami’s rotation entirely is kinda wild. Dudes in the first year of a $90 mil contract lol

If the Heat win it all this year, it is worth it. If not, heads should roll for their cap situation in a year or two.

He's not even playing. Its basically dead money how is that worth it lol

Sorry, meant from a team salary perspective. Like the whole thing could be a disaster with Butler making $52.5m as a 36 year old....

Post #1953 » by **Prez** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:14 pm

The Embiid noise is annoying. If anyone should’ve won MVP over Jokic it should’ve been Giannis, but I’m cool with Jokic winning.

Embiid’s strongest case IMO is literally “he’s a fun player, we really like him and he hasn’t won it yet”. He straight up was not better than either of Jokic/Giannis this season.

tydett · Post #1954 » by **tydett** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:15 pm

We laugh about Duncan Robinson's contract, but that **** Pat Riley is gonna flip him and PJ's expiring contract for somebody who moves the needle. Some team is going to believe that they can use Robinson effectively to cure their shooting woes, and give up a piece because the NBA is stupid and our team didn't value salary slots and....

Ron Swanson · Post #1955 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:21 pm

Yeah, teams are always gonna value shooting in this current era of 3PT basketball. Dumb organizations will still give out dumb contracts. I just hope that we're not one of them.

buckboy · Post #1956 » by **buckboy** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:30 pm

Sad news, Adreian Payne shot and killed at age 31:

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/09/former-michigan-state-star-adreian-payne-dies-at-31

Matches Malone · Post #1957 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon May 9, 2022 4:55 pm

buckboy wrote:Sad news, Adreian Payne shot and killed at age 31:

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/09/former-michigan-state-star-adreian-payne-dies-at-31

Wow... that's awful

jschligs · Post #1958 » by **jschligs** » Mon May 9, 2022 5:19 pm

buckboy wrote:Sad news, Adreian Payne shot and killed at age 31:

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/09/former-michigan-state-star-adreian-payne-dies-at-31

That's really sad. I remember him giving the Badgers a fit every time we played. He was very talented.

Licensed to Il · Post #1959 » by **Licensed to Il** » Mon May 9, 2022 5:43 pm

I can't care about who gets MVP, because the league has intentionally allowed the criteria to be ambiguous so that talking heads and dudes in bars perpetually have something to argue about. Its an intentional clusterf* and I am just not going to fall for it. I'll also say that letting writers vote on who gets it is going to forever create a significant group that is subtly trying to create a new story/new narrative as oppossed to just giving it to the obvious deserving guy every year (Jordan, Lebron, Giannis).

coolhandluke121 · Post #1960 » by **coolhandluke121** » Mon May 9, 2022 5:57 pm

TroyD92 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Prez wrote:Duncan Robinson just being totally out of Miami’s rotation entirely is kinda wild. Dudes in the first year of a $90 mil contract lol

If the Heat win it all this year, it is worth it. If not, heads should roll for their cap situation in a year or two.

He's not even playing. Its basically dead money how is that worth it lol

He might be playable against the Bucks. They certainly haven't done a very good job targeting weak defenders in the past. It's not even clear that they consider it a possible approach sometimes, like it would be ungentlemanly or something.