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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#361 » by buckboy » Mon May 2, 2022 3:06 pm

Just finished the Simmons podcast. I thought he handled it pretty well. No real excuse making.

I liked at the end when Russillo asked him if his opinion had changed about the series and he hesitated for a full 3 or 4 seconds and then started talking about Smart was hurt, blah blah blah. That was the only time he was into the excuses. He almost made it.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#362 » by tedbrogen » Mon May 2, 2022 3:09 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Timelord was really anchoring Boston's D. That's a tough call for Ime. Putting out one fire to start another if he benches him for Theis.
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There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.
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Post#363 » by midranger » Mon May 2, 2022 3:14 pm

The thing about Smart is he's constantly initiating contact and then dramatically throwing himself down to the floor upon that contact. He has been doing this for many years. It's legitimately his primary skill on a basketball court. It's really incredible he isn't injured more.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#364 » by midranger » Mon May 2, 2022 3:15 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Timelord was really anchoring Boston's D. That's a tough call for Ime. Putting out one fire to start another if he benches him for Theis.
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There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.

Bingo.

Grayson pulled the ole Mav, "going hit the brakes and he'll fly right by move".
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#365 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon May 2, 2022 3:19 pm

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You certainly got me,I commend you. And I consider myself fluent in sarcasm. :lol: :beer:

You should not have any doubts in this one though. Giannis is never terrible.


The great ones still get humbled occasionally. And, yea, GIanni's "subpar" game is still better than most humans.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#366 » by emunney » Mon May 2, 2022 3:19 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Timelord was really anchoring Boston's D. That's a tough call for Ime. Putting out one fire to start another if he benches him for Theis.
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There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.


Brook dunked on him also.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#367 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon May 2, 2022 3:23 pm

buckboy wrote:Just finished the Simmons podcast. I thought he handled it pretty well. No real excuse making.

I liked at the end when Russillo asked him if his opinion had changed about the series and he hesitated for a full 3 or 4 seconds and then started talking about Smart was hurt, blah blah blah. That was the only time he was into the excuses. He almost made it.


Heard it too. They both gave the Bucks props and felt legitimately concerned moving forward in the series since they acknowledged that Gianni clearly has another level he can go to. Best line was Russillo during the Gianni-talk when he said something like "you know when you're sitting there seeing him cross half-court with any kind of momentum thinking 'Alright, this is probably gonna suck'" followed by a chuckle.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#368 » by raysbookclub » Mon May 2, 2022 3:28 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Timelord was really anchoring Boston's D. That's a tough call for Ime. Putting out one fire to start another if he benches him for Theis.
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There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.


Yep, that's pretty questionable stat-keeping whoever came up with that.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#369 » by WRau1 » Mon May 2, 2022 3:29 pm

I liked Nick Wright's point this morning. It was something like - Giannis is good for 2 wins by himself simply by being in his playoffs/Finals MVP form, Boston cannot lose a single game where Giannis doesn't have that showing yet they just lost w/ Giannis only going for 24 on 9-25 and missing 5 fts. Boston is basically already down 3-0.
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Post#370 » by emunney » Mon May 2, 2022 3:30 pm

midranger wrote:The thing about Smart is he's constantly initiating contact and then dramatically throwing himself down to the floor upon that contact. He has been doing this for many years. It's legitimately his primary skill on a basketball court. It's really incredible he isn't injured more.


You might have even been thinking of this specific play.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=315&GameID=0042100211&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=G.%20Antetokounmpo%204%27%20Cutting%20Finger%20Roll%20Layup%20Shot%20(8%20PTS)%20(Holiday%204%20AST)&sct=plot
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#371 » by RiotPunch » Mon May 2, 2022 3:31 pm

emunney wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Timelord was really anchoring Boston's D. That's a tough call for Ime. Putting out one fire to start another if he benches him for Theis.
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There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.


Brook dunked on him also.

I thought it sounded questionable. StatMuse, more like StatUseless!
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#372 » by chonestown » Mon May 2, 2022 3:37 pm

emunney wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Timelord was really anchoring Boston's D. That's a tough call for Ime. Putting out one fire to start another if he benches him for Theis.
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There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.


Brook dunked on him also.


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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#373 » by crkone » Mon May 2, 2022 3:42 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
emunney wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
There was a play in the second half that Grayson drove right at him, stopped, and hit a shot in the lane. Not sure how that is not included in this stat.


Brook dunked on him also.

I thought it sounded questionable. StatMuse, more like StatUseless!


Grayson here: https://videos.nba.com/nba/pbp/media/2022/05/01/0042100211/439/999e057d-80da-09a8-b87f-5d522e680cef_1280x720.mp4

Brook here: https://videos.nba.com/nba/pbp/media/2022/05/01/0042100211/74/d8c4614d-d090-6738-90f6-bdd29915f5fa_1280x720.mp4

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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#374 » by raysbookclub » Mon May 2, 2022 3:49 pm

One of my favorite things about this Bucks team is that they play like grown men out there. No flopping, no whining, just straight-up let's see if you can beat us. They might be toughest, no-nonsense champion since the Hakeem Rockets.

Shows so clearly in the Jrue vs Smart matchup. Man vs child.

I might say the Celtics take on the personality of Smart. But maybe it's Danny Ainge, that king of weasels, whose personality has shaped that franchise now and for 40 years. A weasel legacy: Ainge the player, Ainge the GM, Paul Pierce in a wheelchair, Marcus Smart, etc.
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Post#375 » by PG Graveyard » Mon May 2, 2022 3:53 pm

Feel like Jrue's play isn't being talked enough about or maybe I'm missing something. He was amazing on both ends and hit a handful of big 4th quarter shots to keep them at arms length. If he does that again on Tuesday I'm very optimistic.
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Post#376 » by HKPackFan » Mon May 2, 2022 3:56 pm

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They let him go because he doesn't follow the mantra, the best defense is a good offense.

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Post#377 » by buckboy » Mon May 2, 2022 3:57 pm

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midranger wrote:The thing about Smart is he's constantly initiating contact and then dramatically throwing himself down to the floor upon that contact. He has been doing this for many years. It's legitimately his primary skill on a basketball court. It's really incredible he isn't injured more.


You might have even been thinking of this specific play.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=315&GameID=0042100211&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=G.%20Antetokounmpo%204%27%20Cutting%20Finger%20Roll%20Layup%20Shot%20(8%20PTS)%20(Holiday%204%20AST)&sct=plot


So gross.

I'm going to be so annoyed this series watching that garbage along with all the ref-bitching.
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Re: PG Boston - No Middleton, No Problem 

Post#378 » by GoldenAntlers » Mon May 2, 2022 4:05 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:This is a four game series.


:rofl:

This you, post Khris injury?

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I think we all get a 24-hour comment pass after that injury.
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Post#379 » by midranger » Mon May 2, 2022 4:09 pm

emunney wrote:
midranger wrote:The thing about Smart is he's constantly initiating contact and then dramatically throwing himself down to the floor upon that contact. He has been doing this for many years. It's legitimately his primary skill on a basketball court. It's really incredible he isn't injured more.


You might have even been thinking of this specific play.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=315&GameID=0042100211&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=G.%20Antetokounmpo%204%27%20Cutting%20Finger%20Roll%20Layup%20Shot%20(8%20PTS)%20(Holiday%204%20AST)&sct=plot

That’s a pretty typical one, yes. Whiplash and smashing his face to the floor as Giannis just goes up and cleanly tips the ball. Like, I’d die if I did that twice. He does it 12 times a game. Minimum.
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Post#380 » by GoldenAntlers » Mon May 2, 2022 4:13 pm

emunney wrote:
midranger wrote:The thing about Smart is he's constantly initiating contact and then dramatically throwing himself down to the floor upon that contact. He has been doing this for many years. It's legitimately his primary skill on a basketball court. It's really incredible he isn't injured more.


You might have even been thinking of this specific play.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=315&GameID=0042100211&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=G.%20Antetokounmpo%204%27%20Cutting%20Finger%20Roll%20Layup%20Shot%20(8%20PTS)%20(Holiday%204%20AST)&sct=plot
I'm so glad we don't have to root for anyone like this. Even the villain and thug, dirty Grayson Allen, isn't anywhere near Smart's level of these type of plays. I'm sure he's a fun guy to root for, but objectively speaking he should be out of the league.
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