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Bucks have lost 4 straight, their only win was against a Sixers team without Embiid and George. Cavs are 5-0. They will be on a B2B, playing Orlando Friday night.

We play the Cavs again Monday in Cleveland.

Going to be a LONG two days.

Must Win. Schedule L.

Middleton feels good but won’t play.


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They might not wanna bring back that contest where fans get seats until they win again.

Rooting for all losses until we get the changes we need aka a new GM

ANOTHER game? Ugh.

At this point I'm just wondering how bad it needs to get for the organization to seriously start thinking about firing Doc. And at what point does pride actually start kicking in for some of these dudes?

dont feel good about this one

Oh great, now we get to watch the coach I've wanted for the past year+ shred our Doc lead bucks apart.

**** you, Bucks ownership.

Ron Swanson wrote:At this point I'm just wondering how bad it needs to get for the organization to seriously start thinking about firing Doc. And at what point does pride actually start kicking in for some of these dudes?

What's more likely to happen first - canning Doc or tearing it all down for an attempt at an abbreviated reset around Giannis?

humanrefutation wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:At this point I'm just wondering how bad it needs to get for the organization to seriously start thinking about firing Doc. And at what point does pride actually start kicking in for some of these dudes?

What's more likely to happen first - canning Doc or tearing it all down for an attempt at an abbreviated reset around Giannis?

Ideally they should happen concurrently. I'm willing to entertain the theory that they brought Darvin back as a potential failsafe/interim option much like Stotts last season (before Griffin ran him out of town). The Cavs look like a juggernaut right now, so 1-6 with a bottom-3 net-rating is looking sadly realistic by this time Tuesday.

humanrefutation wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:At this point I'm just wondering how bad it needs to get for the organization to seriously start thinking about firing Doc. And at what point does pride actually start kicking in for some of these dudes?

What's more likely to happen first - canning Doc or tearing it all down for an attempt at an abbreviated reset around Giannis?

I’d bet on Doc getting sacked.

It would have to be simultaneous. Does anyone actually want to go into rebuilding for the second half of Giannis' career with Doc as the coach? He was brought in as a Hail Mary to hopefully bring in a vet ex-player with some weight to get through to our vets.

ReddRum wrote:Rooting for all losses until we get the changes we need aka a new GM

I guess losing enough games so the '31 pick isn't traded for a role player who might've helped put the Bucks over the top, could be seen as a plus.

StickeeFingaz wrote:

humanrefutation wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:At this point I'm just wondering how bad it needs to get for the organization to seriously start thinking about firing Doc. And at what point does pride actually start kicking in for some of these dudes?

What's more likely to happen first - canning Doc or tearing it all down for an attempt at an abbreviated reset around Giannis?

I’d bet on Doc getting sacked.

I think that depends on how deep has Doc sunk his claws into Haslam.

humanrefutation wrote:

StickeeFingaz wrote:

humanrefutation wrote:
What's more likely to happen first - canning Doc or tearing it all down for an attempt at an abbreviated reset around Giannis?

I’d bet on Doc getting sacked.

I think that depends on how deep has Doc sunk his claws into Haslam.

You've mentioned Haslam a few times. Maybe I'm missing something, why do you think Haslam has so much influence? It's my understanding he's busy with the Browns and his other businesses. He's rarely at games. Edens is at games and seems to be in charge.

Feels like a tipping point game, even this early.

MickeyDavis wrote:

humanrefutation wrote:

StickeeFingaz wrote:
I’d bet on Doc getting sacked.

I think that depends on how deep has Doc sunk his claws into Haslam.

You've mentioned Haslam a few times. Maybe I'm missing something, why do you think Haslam has so much influence? It's my understanding he's busy with the Browns and his other businesses. He's rarely at games. Edens is at games and seems to be in charge.

Doc also aligns politically more with Edens, which is what I'm guessing is a big reason Doc gets along with ownership and why Edens is willing to let Doc run rampant over this org. Doc is the ultimate gaslighter and has ownership wrapped around his finger it seems.

Haslam just brings his Browns curse with him

Ron Swanson wrote:

humanrefutation wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:At this point I'm just wondering how bad it needs to get for the organization to seriously start thinking about firing Doc. And at what point does pride actually start kicking in for some of these dudes?

What's more likely to happen first - canning Doc or tearing it all down for an attempt at an abbreviated reset around Giannis?

Ideally they should happen concurrently. I'm willing to entertain the theory that they brought Darvin back as a potential failsafe/interim option much like Stotts last season (before Griffin ran him out of town). The Cavs look like a juggernaut right now, so 1-6 with a bottom-3 net-rating is looking sadly realistic by this time Tuesday.

Why would they need Ham when they have Prunty?