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midranger wrote:

midranger wrote:Not sure what the Jazz are doing, but….

Kuz forw KJ Martin and Talor Hendricks would be great, especially if we need to open up some room for a Beal like buy out guy.

This would open up room for Beal (I think) above and beyond what other teams could do. Not sure if Utah considers it.

Starters:
KPJ -28
Beal -28
Trent Jr -28
Giannis -31
Turner -30

Main Bench:
Rollins -20
Green - 26
Prince - 18
Bobby -26

Spot Minutes/injury or Matchup Dependent
Harris
KJ Martin
Sims
Hendricks
Ajax
Smith


I actually think this is a great team

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Is a Turner sign and trade still possible?

mcfromage wrote:Is a Turner sign and trade still possible?

Nope, he signed the contract.

The amount of Pacers fans on my timeline yesterday and this morning convincing themselves that Turner was pulling a DeAndre Jordan was hilarious. Poor bastards

FWIW, the Bucks youtube page hasn't put up a "Best of Kyle Kuzma 24/25" video yet.

So this was taken care of. No specification on the amount, but it must be enough to enable the Turner signing.

If it's between Beal and Paul, I'll take Paul.

Ron Swanson wrote:FWIW, the Bucks youtube page hasn't put up a "Best of Kyle Kuzma 24/25" video yet.

Can’t wait to watch 10 minutes of layups from awful angles somehow going in while he falls to the ground. I assume they’ll leave out the 20 minutes of him missing layups.

Licensed to Il wrote:Turner, Simms, Beetlejuice
Giannis, Bobby, Kuz
Green, Harris
Trent, AJax
Porter Jr, Rollins

This roster is a Mids buyout or Kuz trade away from having enough juice to win a playoff series

That roster is not Doc proof’s enough. He will definitely give all the SF minutes to Kuz and Prince, which then takes minutes from AJG, GTJ, and Rollins.

Trade Kuz for literally anyone else, play three guards as much as possible, and hope for a Midds buyout and reunion. That’s the path to winning a playoff series.

The issue with “rebuilding” Kuz’s value for a deadline trade is it requires you lose several games you could have won because you have to have Kuz on the floor and he is one of the worst fits ever imaginable with Giannis. It’s not just because he can’t hit three at league average. It’s because he also can’t finish at the rim, has a horrible shot selection, plays super low iq ball, while being higher volume than he should be.

I’d probably do Kuz and AJJ for Grant’s awful contract and an asset from Portland because at least they wouldn’t feel obligated to start Grant at SF and give him 30+ minutes a game.

I’d trade him for Grimes at $25M in hopes Grimes level up was for real.

I’d trade him for Can Thomas at $20M since it forces them to play three guards a lot.

I’d trade him for Kuminga at $25M in hopes he levels up.

I dare someone to find a Kuz trade I would turn down.

I’ll tell you what…I’d do the Sacramento idea of Kuzma for Malik Monk and Devin Carter id definitely do if available. Monk fits and is a few years younger than Kuzma too.

If Beal and Paul are likely choosing the location over opportunity I'd be just fine not getting either. I think CP3 rides out into the sunset in an LA market either way, cashes out a check and adds a few assists to his legacy. Beal would be great to have but if he's choosing LA over us it's because he wants the market and location more than a chance to prove himself.

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So this was taken care of. No specification on the amount, but it must be enough to enable the Turner signing.

In the NBAs transaction page it shows us waiving him and Dame yesterday.

Wonder if we could do a S&T where we send Dre out for a 2 way RFA we like (like Isaiah Crawford).

Would be really happy to get any of these guys in a Kuzma deal, would give up 31 and 32 in any way to get Murphy or the kings guys, would maybe do a swap rights on a Kuminga deal

Trey Murphy
Keegan Murray/Keon Ellis/Devin Carter
Kuminga

Rstuedes24 wrote:Would be really happy to get any of these guys in a Kuzma deal, would give up 31 and 32 in any way to get Murphy or the kings guys, would maybe do a swap rights on a Kuminga deal

Trey Murphy
Keegan Murray/Keon Ellis/Devin Carter
Kuminga

Are we now able to deal both picks?

The weakness that I see in the Bucks roster is that they do not have a closer. The player that you design a play for at the crucial point in a game. The player who can get his owns shot off and make it under pressure. And, importantly for a team with Antetokounmpo, knock down a pair of clutch free throws when protecting a lead and the opposition starts intentionally fouling. For all of my discontent with Lillard dominating the ball and hoisting a lot of shots at a low percentage of success, he was a joy to have going to the foul line late in the game.

I think Horst has an idea of Kuzma's value and it is probably higher in February than it is today, just because there is likely to be more talent available at the deadline than there is today. Horst might even have a list of players likely to be available at the deadline. No need to force a Kuzma trade if there are possibilities on the horizon.

Jim O posted a dominoes falling gif on bsky in response to the Micic buyout. Not sure if he knows something and is being cagey or if he just likes dem bones.

Chad34 wrote:

Rstuedes24 wrote:Would be really happy to get any of these guys in a Kuzma deal, would give up 31 and 32 in any way to get Murphy or the kings guys, would maybe do a swap rights on a Kuminga deal

Trey Murphy
Keegan Murray/Keon Ellis/Devin Carter
Kuminga

Are we now able to deal both picks?

Can deal one outright and deal a swap on the other one.