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Post#1 » by redd022 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:03 am

I looked on the 1st 7 pages and didnt find a story about this guy.

I just looked at his D-league stats, and he is averaging
21/6/7 per game.

Yes, he gets a lot of minutes (35 per game), but just 3 games ago he went for 16 points and 18 assists. I think he can be just as good as mo next year or the year after. He scores 21 ppg, and is still shooting 45% from the field. While going 21/6/7, he is only averaging 2.8 TOs per game, which isnt bad.

I say we trade Mo, and get as much as we can, get rid of that horrendous contract and give this guy a shot.

what do you think?
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Post#2 » by skones » Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:34 am

Trading Mo and naming this guy our starting point guard = bad idea. He hasn't even played a regular season game in the NBA yet.
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Post#3 » by Nowak008 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:40 am

redd022 wrote: get rid of that horrendous contract


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Post#4 » by trwi7 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 10:01 am

Sessions has been good this year, doesn't mean we should trade our PG to make room for him...unless of course we're tanking. :wink:
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Post#5 » by Chapter29 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 12:20 pm

Zero chance that we move Mo because of Sessions, but I wonder...

If Harris believes, like I do, that Mo and Redd cannot coexist as starters and wants to move one and the best offers come for Mo, would we move him?

We really have no backup PG. Bell has not looked good there and Ivey is a 3rd string caliber talent. Granted we could get a PG in return, but it isn't very likely we would just swap PG's with someone.

Would we move Mo and bring up Sessions if the Mo deal was really appealing? My guess is no and that we would look to attain a PG elsewhere, but Sessions does deserve to be pulled up soon enough either way.

Given the state of our backup PG we probably should take a look at this kid sooner rather than later.
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Post#6 » by paul » Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:04 pm

Chapter29 wrote:Zero chance that we move Mo because of Sessions, but I wonder...

If Harris believes, like I do, that Mo and Redd cannot coexist as starters and wants to move one and the best offers come for Mo, would we move him?

We really have no backup PG. Bell has not looked good there and Ivey is a 3rd string caliber talent. Granted we could get a PG in return, but it isn't very likely we would just swap PG's with someone.

Would we move Mo and bring up Sessions if the Mo deal was really appealing? My guess is no and that we would look to attain a PG elsewhere, but Sessions does deserve to be pulled up soon enough either way.

Given the state of our backup PG we probably should take a look at this kid sooner rather than later.


I really haven't seen much of sessions yet although his numbers are impressive, but i have to say i like what Ivey has brought this season. He's a scrappy defender, makes good hustle plays and usually looks after the ball pretty well, he's also shot the 3 better than i thought he could, he's exceded my expectations and I think he's making a solid backup. I don't imagine sessions is going to move in front of him any time soon, even though i'm sure they hope he will in the future.
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Post#7 » by WRau1 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:41 pm

From what I've seen of Sessions, he's pretty much a Mo type PG with more size. If we begin to tank, I'd love to see him get the call up to see if he do anything at the next level. But trading away your starting PG who's contract is VERY reasonable for a dude in the DLeague who has yet to see NBA minutes? Not a good idea.
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Post#8 » by europa » Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:07 pm

WRau1 wrote:From what I've seen of Sessions, he's pretty much a Mo type PG with more size.


Everything I've seen and read about him makes him look like the anti-Mo - a big PG who can defend and excels at running an offense. In that respect, his skill set is very intriguing.

That said, he isn't ready to be a starter and he may not even be ready to be a backup right now. So trading Mo with the intention of going with Sessions now doesn't make much sense. But if the Bucks truly believe Sessions could become a starter at some point, then trading Mo definitely becomes an option. And if the decision is made to blow the team up, paying almost $9M a year to Mo doesn't make much sense in my opinion.
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Post#9 » by unklchuk » Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:10 pm

Does Sessions have quickness?

In the few minutes I've seen him, he looked awkward with the ball. Do they pressure in the D-league like they might up here?
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Post#10 » by Bucks Fan Dave » Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:24 pm

I think we should bring him up as a backup... but I doubt we see him this year
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Post#11 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:34 pm

Bucks Fan Dave wrote:I think we should bring him up as a backup... but I doubt we see him this year



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Post#12 » by midranger » Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:41 pm

I think we should just cut Redd and call up Jeremy Richardson. I mean the guy is a 28 point scorer.
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Post#13 » by -Jragon- » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:15 pm

I might be late on this... but I really like Mo at shooting guard. He seemed to actually try on defense and was hawking the ball aggressively (reminded me of watching Iverson). He's also better at passing out of the pick and roll then Redd imho .. so how about this?

pg Ivey or Sessions
sg Mo
sf Redd
pf Yi
c Bogut

I like Ivey starting because of the defense. His job in the half court offense is to dump it into the post and either wait for the kickout three or cut to the hoop from the weak side. On the fast break either Ivey or Mo can run that (and it will be faster with both running)

If Ivey can't provide enough assists and Sessions can play d call him up to step in.

Why Redd at sf? Because or other sf's suck and Redd can at least stay in front of sf's defensively. In the post we have 2 - 7 footers to help. And if anyone can't hold their man C Bell can step in (or Simmons on Matchups)
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Post#14 » by wichmae » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:51 pm

Sessions is essentially the anti-Mo. A more controlled point player who is more of a half court type guy. He probabky wiont ever average double figures in the NBA though he could take over a position like what IIvey does for us in the future. You do need to put things in context wjen you talk about the NBADL.

Top 25 NBADL scorers
* Morris Almond , UTA
29.8 .463
Jeremy Richardson , FWN
28.5 .464
* CJ Watson , RGV
26.4 .506
* Gabe Muoneke , RGV
26.4 .486
* Keith Langford , AUS
23.2 .530
* Carlos Powell , DAK
23.0 .500
Kaniel Dickens , COL
22.1 .510
* Dwayne Mitchell , IOW
21.9 .498
Sean Banks , LAD
21.5 .494
Elton Brown , COL
21.5 .522
* Ramon Sessions , TUL
20.9 .451
* Kasib Powell , SIF
20.5 .530
Steven Smith , ANA
19.8 .494
Josh Gross , ABQ
19.5 .523
* Brandon Bowman , BAK
19.2 .513
* Marcus Williams , AUS
19.1 .528
Lance Allred , IDA
19.0 .542
* Scooter McFadgon , BAK
18.8 .471
* Ian Mahinmi , AUS
18.5 .621 .
* Coby Karl , LAD
18.3 .492
* Dontell Jefferson , DAK
18.2 .431
Steve Novak , RGV
17.9 .457
Andre Barrett , BAK
17.7 .464
Maurice Ager , TUL
17.4 .429
Maurice Baker , DAK
17.3 .447



now of those 25 probably less than half are real NBA players. Its a guard dominated league where when you have the ball you control your destiny....

He has shown he can play though and play the right way with his 18 assist game that I watched about a week ago.... He has good court vision plays solid defense but if your expecting him ever to be a starter your going to be disappointed. Liken Sessions to have a career like a Jacque Vaughn, Royal Ivey, or Darrell Armstrong. Je will be a quality point off the bench. Here is his profile from NBADRAFT.NET
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Post#15 » by -Jragon- » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:18 pm

wichmae wrote:Sessions is essentially the anti-Mo. A more controlled point player who is more of a half court type guy. He probabky wiont ever average double figures in the NBA though he could take over a position like what IIvey does for us in the future. You do need to put things in context wjen you talk about the NBADL.

Top 25 NBADL scorers
* Morris Almond , UTA
29.8 .463
Jeremy Richardson , FWN
28.5 .464
* CJ Watson , RGV
26.4 .506
* Gabe Muoneke , RGV
26.4 .486
* Keith Langford , AUS
23.2 .530
* Carlos Powell , DAK
23.0 .500
Kaniel Dickens , COL
22.1 .510
* Dwayne Mitchell , IOW
21.9 .498
Sean Banks , LAD
21.5 .494
Elton Brown , COL
21.5 .522
* Ramon Sessions , TUL
20.9 .451
* Kasib Powell , SIF
20.5 .530
Steven Smith , ANA
19.8 .494
Josh Gross , ABQ
19.5 .523
* Brandon Bowman , BAK
19.2 .513
* Marcus Williams , AUS
19.1 .528
Lance Allred , IDA
19.0 .542
* Scooter McFadgon , BAK
18.8 .471
* Ian Mahinmi , AUS
18.5 .621 .
* Coby Karl , LAD
18.3 .492
* Dontell Jefferson , DAK
18.2 .431
Steve Novak , RGV
17.9 .457
Andre Barrett , BAK
17.7 .464
Maurice Ager , TUL
17.4 .429
Maurice Baker , DAK
17.3 .447



now of those 25 probably less than half are real NBA players. Its a guard dominated league where when you have the ball you control your destiny....

He has shown he can play though and play the right way with his 18 assist game that I watched about a week ago.... He has good court vision plays solid defense but if your expecting him ever to be a starter your going to be disappointed. Liken Sessions to have a career like a Jacque Vaughn, Royal Ivey, or Darrell Armstrong. Je will be a quality point off the bench. Here is his profile from NBADRAFT.NET
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Post#16 » by wichmae » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:26 pm

Mikle did average 22 ppg as a freshman and there was a consensus that he could have been a first round guy but had poor workouts and was out of shape so he slipped. Mo was coming off a an underwhelming sophomore campaign and was though to be a project pick. He also was two years younger than Sessions when drafted.
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Post#17 » by redd022 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:29 pm

just asking.. when did i say we would bring sessions in as our starter?

I said we would trade mo yes. but, if we traded mo we would not bring sessions in as our starter. Trade mo for PG depth, and a SF or something.

Before this season, how many of you said you would like to go into the season with brevin knight and charlie bell at PG. Knight is only averaging 5 points and 4 assists per game.

I would be comfortable starting Bell, with Ivey and Sessions backing him up. Yes, Bell has had problems shooting the ball, but 90% of the guys on this board say you want a PG that can run the offense. Bell proved he can do that when he played over 25 min without shooting a shot, and we won.

Give me Bell, Ivey and sessions, for the rest of the season, see if sessions has what we need to be a starting PG in the league, and if not, we would probably have a top 5-8 pick. Draft a PG there
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Post#18 » by wichmae » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:35 pm

oh and one more thing....


Mo is still only 25 years old and still learning...


I'll keep what we have going on and Sessions on the floor down in the D league. I doubt he would dress if we called him up
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Post#19 » by MajorDad » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:37 pm

so what have las t year's developmental league leaders done this year? is there a great story about a player who spent a year in the d league who is now a star or starter this year?

I'm just wondering for a young player who is not projected as a first round pick if it is better for him fundementally to stay in college another year, or to go into the draft, get drafted in the second round and spend a year in the D league.

I'm a big supporter of the D league. I' m just unfamilier with any D league success stories. To me ersan going fro m the D league to the Bucks' bench back to Europe is not a success story.
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Post#20 » by redd022 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:43 pm

wichmae wrote:oh and one more thing....


Mo is still only 25 years old and still learning...


I'll keep what we have going on and Sessions on the floor down in the D league. I doubt he would dress if we called him up


let me guess, you are also one of the guys saying mo is not a real PG, and he shoots too much, he is all about the stats, he doesnt run the offense, he is a SG in a PG body. All of this is said daily by our members, yet you are too scared because he is young, and putting up great stats. To me, that seems like the perfect time to trade him. We could get maximum value for a guy, that is running the offense way wrong, and not doing good at giving guys the ball.

We have redd, yi, and bogut that should be shooting the ball. Yes, its nice having a PG that can shoot the 3, but redd yi and bogut SHOULD BE the future of this team. not mo

bring in a guy that can play TOUGH D, a guy that can drive to the basket, and a guy that can give our playmakers the ball

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