We must call up Pat Riley (with one possible trade scenario)

[showtimesam]

I think Larry needs to work the phones with Pat Riley (if kohl will let him) and hammer out a trade.

Everyone knows the heat went after mo hard over the offseason, and there were also rumors that they were interested in bobby simmons.

Depending on who Riley would want more (redd or mo), the heat represent a great trading partner because they can send back expiring contracts and can also take on bobby's horrible contract while offering up a young athletic three to work with in dorrel wright.

A trade with the heat wouldnt be exciting this year, but it would allow LK to mold a more inside/out team on offense that can up the intensity on defense a great deal.


Here is an example of a trade if Riley really wanted to pair redd with wade:

Milwaukee trades:

Redd
Simmons
Gadz
Villanuevua

Miami Trades:

Alonzo Mourning (expiring)
Ricky Davis (expiring)
Jayson Williams (expiring)
Mark Blount (1 year less than Danny G)
Udonis Haslem (Pf that provides everything the bucks need with defense and rebounding)
Dorrel Wright (young athletic 3 man)

Maybe a get a first round pick out of the heat as well

Bucks new lineup:

Ivey/Mo
Mo/Bell
Wright/Mason
Haslem/Yi
Bogut/Voskuhl/Blound

With that I would just cut jay williams, davis, and mourning and pay them for this year. Now the bucks have two defenders in the starting lineup with Ivey and Haslem while Mo and Bogut can work on there inside/out game.

During the offseason, the bucks will likely be looking at a high lotto pick again. With that the bucks can look for a tall PG to start alongside Williams, or an athletic defender/scorer at the 2 or 3 spot.


Now I think Riley would be interested in this trade (especially if he can keep his lotto pick for this offeason) because he gets a group of scorers to help take the load of D-Wade.

Wade
Redd
Simmons
CV
Shaq

That lineup could become pretty potent for riley.

I know its a fantasy trade, but all trade proposals are. I think this allows the bucks to rebuild fast and effectively. Let me know what you think.

[Rockmaninoff]

The Heat can not trade the 2008 1st round pick, until it is determined that they will end the season out of the lottery. That pick goes to Minnesota if the Heat end up in the lottery, as part of the Antoine Walker trade.

The Bucks should look elsewhere to make a Michael Redd trade. Mo should stay as our 6th man or temporary starting 2 guard.

[showtimesam]

Ah thats alright, I wasn't really planning on getting their lotto pick anyways. Chances are the bucks will have on of their own.

However, knowing Riley can't get saved from a top pick, I think that makes it even more likely he would look to deal with the bucks and use his expiring contracts while he can to up the talent level in miami.

[emunney]

Rock, the pick goes to Minny if the Heat aren't in the lotto. It's lottery protected in '08, top 10 protected in '09 and top 6 protected in '10. The Heat could trade the pick on the obverse condition.

[Rockmaninoff]

Rock, the pick goes to Minny if the Heat aren't in the lotto. It's lottery protected in '08, top 10 protected in '09 and top 6 protected in '10. The Heat could trade the pick on the obverse condition.

Ah yes, I'm a little dyslexic today. Thanks for correcting that.

So then they can't trade it until they know they are in the lottery, and in that case, they probably wouldn't trade it.

[MajorDad]

could we trade for pat Riley? i hear he's a great 6'5 guard who knows how to pass the ball and play defense. old? well, old is ok if he can get the job done.

[emunney]

Right... and now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not sure exactly how it'd all work out what with the NBA's ban on trading back-to-back picks. But I'm confident something could be worked out, maybe with a third team like Phoenix chipping in a late first for some cash.

[Buck You]

Miami's out of it, no matter what ESPN says. They are done for. They won't take on 2 bad contracts+ Redd to lose lottery balls.

[emunney]

You and I both know that, but does Riley? Probably, but maybe not. After all, they're "only" 7.5 games out of the playoffs, and anything can happen in the playoffs...

[showtimesam]

Yeah I would love to see if I could entice riley by the possibility of wade and redd together to take on bobby's contract.

[-Jragon-]

Best player getting moved.. Redd. Theoretically we lose that trade, while at the same time getting faster and more athletic.

*edited to say - and expiring contracts which could help in the future.

[blkout]

This would benefit the team far more than alot of trades I've seen. Wright would have to increase his production to really make it worthwhile but Haslem is a step in the right direction.

[-Jragon-]

Haslem's last 2 games:

Last Two Games:
Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Jan 11 @ NOH L 88 - 114 26 3 - 6 0 - 0 0 - 0 1 6 7 1 1 0 1 0 6
Jan 09 @ MIL L 92 - 98 33 2 - 7 0 - 0 3 - 4 1 4 5 0 0 1 0 4 7

6 points/7 rebounds in 26 min
7 points/5 rebounds in 33 min against us

Why are we trading Michael Redd for him again? We have guys on our bench who can do this this.

[magpies]

Why are we trading Michael Redd for him again? We have guys on our bench who can do this this.

Because we can win with out Redd and Haslem is the type of player we need,

I love this trade and I have wanted Haslem on our team for a long time, we also get Davis who will make sure we still get points from the guards when Mo is sitting.

The best thing about this trade is it is not one sided, The Heat end up with Redd who might help Wade to stay

[blkout]

Haslem's last 2 games:

What a fantastic sample size I like that you overlooked the fact that in the previous 4 games before those two he'd averaged 14/9.

Bogut's last 2 games: 23/10, 29/11... it's a wonder Orlando aren't throwing Dwight at us for him.

[-Jragon-]

Good point. Seriously though. What role do you see him playing on the Bucks? And is it really worth Redd AND CV? I'm not even convinced that CV won't develop into a better player than he is (if he isn't already.)

[-Jragon-]

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Because we can win with out Redd and Haslem is the type of player we need,

I love this trade and I have wanted Haslem on our team for a long time, we also get Davis who will make sure we still get points from the guards when Mo is sitting.

The best thing about this trade is it is not one sided, The Heat end up with Redd who might help Wade to stay

Maybe we can win without Redd, I just think we can get more in return. Davis is a rent-a-player since his deal expires. The good part of the deal is the finantual flexibility it gives us by relieving our bad contracts. But player/talent wise, based on who we can keep after this year, we get raped on this deal.

[blkout]

Good point. Seriously though. What role do you see him playing on the Bucks?

That's exactly it, he would play a role. He basically produces more than Yi does but does it in a more efficient manner, i.e he doesn't get the ball as much as Yi but he gives you more than Yi does at power forward. The Bucks need more guys like that.

And is it really worth Redd AND CV?

I personally wouldn't give up Redd and CV for Haslem.

[Shack]

knowing LK he will still give Yi 30 mins a game and Haslem 10

[showtimesam]

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Maybe we can win without Redd, I just think we can get more in return. Davis is a rent-a-player since his deal expires. The good part of the deal is the finantual flexibility it gives us by relieving our bad contracts. But player/talent wise, based on who we can keep after this year, we get raped on this deal.

The flexibility with the contracts is huge. Lk will have some hard nosed players he can mold to play the right way.

Plus Haslem is a nice addition to the big man rotation. Yeah we're not getting much for redd, but we're dumping some horrible contracts, and letting some other guys step up.

In the meantime, the bucks can develop bogut and yi this year, lose some games and get a high lotto pick, and add a solid "smart" player with the midlevel.

I think this team develops into a good team with the right additions.