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My Idea for the bucks New offense (play)

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:55 pm
by 1377
Okay, after watching the bucks this season, I really have to think their offensive plays are either too complex (ie. do not get into position soon enough) or we don't run them right / fast enough. We are consistantly getting into a late shot clock situation before we get the ball where we want it. So, this is my idea for a play, please feel free to comment on it.
On the court -
Mo-1
Redd/Bell -2
Simmons - 3
Yi-CV-4
Bogut - 5

Goal - Get the ball to Bogut in the post and let him put the ball in the hole or make a good pass.

Shot Clock - 24 seconds.

Step 1-
1 Brings ball up the floor to top of key or so. 2 goes to left wing, 3 to right. 4 Goes to Left Block. 5 Goes to Right Block. Max 10 seconds, 7 second target - 17 seconds on shot clock.

Step 2-
1 passes ball to 2 on left wing. 1 then cuts between 4 and 2 with a backpick from 4. (IF open, 2 passes ball to 1 layup, if not, 1 clears through baseline to Right corner. 1 - 2 seconds max. 15 seconds left on the clock.

Step 3-
After 1 cuts, 2 dribbles to between left corner and wing (below free throw line, where a post pass is supposed to come.) At the same 4 turns and sets a pick for 5 on the far side of the lane. 5 comes hard through the lane, sets up post position as near to the basket as possible. (does not have to come all the way out if can get position under the hoop). 2 passes to 5. If 5 has position, he scores, if he had to come all the way out to the block, go to step 4. 1 - 3 seconds. 12 - 13 seconds left on the clock, ball is in the post.

Step 4 -
2 cuts baseline around 5 to give room. 2 can recieve pass for layup, if not, cuts all the way to the corner previously occupied by 1. 3 and 4 set screen for 1 to cut to top of the key. (Redd is our best shooter from the corner, Mo the best from strait out.) (This is a complicated step, 3 and 4 both set a pick for 1, then 3 (who is higher out, remember 4 just set side screen for 5) cuts off of 4 to go the hoop. 4 cuts out to elbow area on the wing (two point land, YI).

Status, With 10 secons or slightly more or less, we have Bogut on the block with the ball, Redd in the corner, possible open from his man trying to double. Mo cutting to the top of the key after getting a double screen. Simmons cutting to the hoop for a lay-up, or rebound possible. Yi popping out to wing after setting screens for Bogut, Mo, then Simmons. Yi is ready to crash if anything is put up. Mo and Yi are ready to get back on D. Bogut has plenty of time to Repost with Mo if necessary (Mo continues over to the wing). Or Bogs can take a good shot or pass it out.

7 seconds left. If Bogut not in position to score, He passes back to Mo. Comes out for a mid pick and role (between the elbow and 3 point line). I know I don't have to describe how it works then.


Well, what do you think? realistic? effective? Do you think they could figure out how to run it?

Karl

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:12 pm
by Buck You
Nice play. I have one too.

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Bogut has the ball in the post Redd cuts on the strong side, Yi cuts on the weak side, Mo cuts to 15 feet and Simmons drifts to the 3 line. It should get you some easy points. We don't do it enough though. Or Bogut can just score if he wants.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:13 pm
by Debit One
This play won't work. It requires that Michael Redd passes the ball to someone.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:15 pm
by BuckFan25226
I prefer the pick and roooollllllllllllllllllllll...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8y_UgNGLfA

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:16 pm
by Rockmaninoff
I like it a lot. That is exactly the type of offense I envision us running. Good work! :clap:

You seem to have a keen interest in the X's and O's. Here is an interesting website (link) dedicated to just that.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:21 pm
by THE DINJ
ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Nice play. I have one too.
Awesome how you took a screenshot of MS Paint. :lol:

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:25 pm
by Buck You
THE DINJ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Awesome how you took a screenshot of MS Paint. :lol:


Ha, I just realized that. Oh whatever haha.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:40 pm
by stellation
I've invented a new offence for the Bucks based on this
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I'll explain more later, the key for success is that we currently have plenty of guys who can play what I call the "missing corner" role. PLENTY!

new offense

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:55 pm
by Badgerlander
How about a low post screen, does anyone do that anymore? sheesh

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:29 pm
by 1377
DocHoliday -

What exactly do you mean? Do you mean a cross screen in the low post? A back pick into the low post?

I think it is a great idea, anytime you say screen and post in a sentance, but just want to know what you mean.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:20 pm
by Chuck Diesel
The Bucks should watch hours of Arvydas Sabonis tape and figure out a way for Bogut to get the ball in the low post with enough room to consistently find cutters for easy baskets. Now that Bogut is drawing double teams, he really has the ability to start cranking out some triple doubles if we use him as a facilitator from the low block. He would have droped about 10 dimes on Tuesday if guys were making shots.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:33 pm
by msquared4873
i just wish redd would figure out that the more touches andrew gets the better looks redd would get.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:05 pm
by Rockmaninoff
Chuck Diesel wrote:The Bucks should watch hours of Arvydas Sabonis tape and figure out a way for Bogut to get the ball in the low post with enough room to consistently find cutters for easy baskets. Now that Bogut is drawing double teams, he really has the ability to start cranking out some triple doubles if we use him as a facilitator from the low block. He would have droped about 10 dimes on Tuesday if guys were making shots.


This...is my dream. Cutters, and guys that can shoot from the outside. Bogut the dominant center who can make point guard like passes. A top 5 offense and top 15 defense can get us to the finals.