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Post#1 » by pasting_monkeys » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:18 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/18/2141617.htm?section=sport

Rest a bigger priority for Bogut

Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:23pm AEDT

Australia's Andrew Bogut says he will miss most of the national men's basketball team's preparations for the Beijing Olympics.

He is having his best season with the Milwaukee Bucks and has averaged almost 20 points and more than 10 rebounds in his last six games.

Bogut will be a key player for the Boomers at the Olympics but says his body will need a break after the 82-game NBA season.

"I'm probably going to have to take a couple of months off after the season which means missing a bulk of the camps with the Australian nation team," he said.

"[It's] unfortunate but a lot of guys found it tough that play in Europe and in the NBA to play for Australia and play for the national team just because of that reason."


Not really ground-breaking stuff, but it's good to know that Bogut is giving himself some time off before the Olympics so he doesn't burn himself out like he did after his rookie season. Hopefully he'll have enough time to develop his mid-range game.
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Post#2 » by blkout » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:21 pm

That's fine with me, I think the benefits of having so many promising big men coming through is going to show in instances like this, as long as he's good to go in the actual Olympics I'll be happy.
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Post#3 » by SheedsWeed » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:22 pm

Eh, good to hear.
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Post#4 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:32 pm

Great, great news.....

I'm guessing Bogut knows he's now playing for somewhere between $50 to $80 million dollars here the next 14-months.
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Post#5 » by Mike X » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:13 am

Anyone else expect the Jazz to make a big run at Bogut. Put im, at his current form, on the Jazz with Williams and Boozer and thats almost a title winning team with the right role-players.
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Post#6 » by emunney » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:15 am

I'm sure the Jazz would like Bogut, but apart from locking up Deron I think they have to be done spending for a while.
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Post#7 » by paul » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:24 am

Mike X wrote:Anyone else expect the Jazz to make a big run at Bogut. Put im, at his current form, on the Jazz with Williams and Boozer and thats almost a title winning team with the right role-players.


If he keeps up this form I can see many many teams making a big run at him. The jazz are an obvious one that had crossed my mind as well.
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Post#8 » by Chuck Diesel » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:50 am

I wonder how deep Bogut's loyalty to Milwaukee will be once it's time for him to decide whether or not he wants to stay here long term. I said this a couple weeks ago, but I could really see him taking less money to go play for another team if things remain the same. I know he likes Kryskowiak and Harris and it sounds like this year he's really started to embrace a leadership roll, but I would have to imagine that the Bucks brand of basketball the last two and a half years has at least given Bogut the thought of packing up and leaving when his rookie contract expires. I think he's a loyal guy and stayed loyal to Utah when he had the chance to leave, but it the NBA is obviously a completely different world. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Post#9 » by KingCammo » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:39 am

If it's any consolation Chuck, Bogut has said repeatadly in interviews down here that he loves the city of Milwaukee including its people etc. If he was to jump to another team for more $$$ or whatever, it would generally be fround upon by the Australian public (who for the most part don't really understand the business that is basketball).
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Post#10 » by blkout » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:57 am

If he was to go anywhere it'd be Utah. I can't really imagine him wanting to move anywhere else, he doesn't seem like the type who'd want to move around every few years.
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Post#11 » by tidbit » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:03 pm

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Post#12 » by pasting_monkeys » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:02 pm

Citizen.Eras3d wrote:If he was to go anywhere it'd be Utah. I can't really imagine him wanting to move anywhere else, he doesn't seem like the type who'd want to move around every few years.


Unless Utah can get rid of Kirilenko or Okur's contracts, there is no way known that they could sign Bogut. And although i think Bogut would take a pay cut to go on a team that plays winning basketball, i doubt he'd take a MLE.
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Post#13 » by fam3381 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:23 pm

pasting_monkeys wrote:And although i think Bogut would take a pay cut to go on a team that plays winning basketball, i doubt he'd take a MLE.


There's really no precedent I can think of for a young guy turning down something like six years/$60+ million to take an MLE deal (five years/$35 million or whatever the MLE is at that point). Some teams of course might have cap space and be able to offer more than the MLE, but it likely won't be a good team. Something tells me the Bucks might also be willing to pay Bogut more than $10 per at that point. That will be Bogut's biggest payday opportunity, and not surprisingly guys always take the money. Bogut would have to take the QO ($8.18 million) from us in 09/10 to become a FA in the summer of 2010, and we'd still have his Bird rights.

FWIW, Utah has only three players under contract for 10/11 at the moment, the only notable one being Kirilenko at $17.8 million (who obviously could be gone). But Ronnie Brewer is one of them (QO of $3.7 million) as well, so you could guess he might also get locked up with a longer term deal for $5-6 million at the very least.

I have to assume Williams will get at least $12 million or something as a starting salary for his extension...don't quote me on that, I'm just guessing. Boozer has a PO for 09/10 for $12.3 million so it's very possible he opts out to re-sign with them for a new long-term deal (probably somewhere in that same neighborhood?). Memo has an ETO for the 09/10 season but at this point you'd guess he takes his $9.5 million and becomes an expiring deal.

So if you are paying Boozer/Williams at least $25 million combined, and Kirilenko (or whatever he fetches in a trade) is taking up about $18 million, that puts you at $43 million already. Add in brewer and you've got closer to $50 million. The cap will probably be closer to $60 million at that point, but who knows exactly. Guys like Fesenko and Millsap's rookie deals will be done at that point, does either break out? Plus we've only filled out a few roster spots, so they'll have signed other guys at that point. Something tells me the Jazz will have too many talented vets at that stage to offer Bogut a big deal, though you never know. That Memo's deal expires the year that Bogut would possibly hit free agency is at least one thing that is going for them. Still, young players always go for the money and incumbent teams can always offer the most of that.
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Post#14 » by pasting_monkeys » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:06 am

great post fam.

very informative

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