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I think Van Gundy and Moncrief said it best

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I think Van Gundy and Moncrief said it best 

Post#1 » by Bucks_Revenge » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:57 pm

I have noticed all these threads trying to figure out why this team cannot seem to put it together...2 people I feel put this team in perspective that was 100% right

Sidney Moncrief on 1250am interview :

When asked about why the bucks are struggling he said every team needs continuity in the players and coaches. If you keep firing the coach every 2 seasons the team is never going to gel together. You need to be patient with your system.

I agree with this like with Porter the first year this team played great and the next year we had major injury problems even though we had a bad record it was evident that the bucks were still playing hard every night. But then LH fired him and hired Stotts and the players had to learn a new system then that didn't work out so after 1 1/2 seasons LH fired him and replaced him with LK and his system is a whole new mind set, But yet we still expect the players to learn the new system and win right away. But we all have to realize it takes tame some longer then other teams.

When George Karl came here we barley made the playoffs the first year, and then the next we still had a low seeding but it was obvious the players were getting better, and in the third year everything just clicked for the players after playing 3 seasons under Karl and we won 52 games and made it 1 game away from the NBA finals. Its not like we have a superstar studded team like Boston you cannot just put in any coach and expect immediate results. We cannot just fire LK we need to keep him to let the players jell under his system for some time and after 3 seasons then we can be worried.


Now to Jeff Van Gundy during the ESPN game vs. the Lakers he was saying that the Bucks have a young nice talented team but saying that we don't have the right players for this system. He said sometimes a GM and coach cannot just put together the best talent together and expect them to figure it out. They need to get the right players for the system. He was saying for the style LK is trying to play that we need a Charles Oakley type of player on this team.


Overall I think those 2 hit our team on the spot. We need continuity with the coaching and players and also we need the right players to fit the system not just skilled players, because sometimes the most talented player may not blend in with your team like the role player. Like how Diaw played great with the suns and not the Hawks.


This is my take you can agree or disagree...whatever.
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Post#2 » by Balls2TheWalls » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:32 pm

I think that it is easy to make general statements about things that you can find on almost any Bucks forum.

None of our problems can be solved quickly, and the problems are much deeper given the impotence of our general manager.
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Post#3 » by Neapolitan Buck » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:45 pm

I agree with you and with them. Continuity is a big part of our insuccess. But I think LK was not a good find. To me, we are too young and athletic and we show that in point-by-point games where our lack of experience kills us most of the time...So we should have taken an experienced head coach that should have grown this young and talented core of players and maybe we would have seen some results. But we have a rookie head coach with doesn't fit well with the team and the players...That is maybe the only mistake by LH other than Gadz: he always takes rookie head coaches.
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Post#4 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:27 am

Continuity is good only if you have the right pieces. Porter was NOT a good hire. Unfortunately we have followed him with two other bad hires.
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Post#5 » by showtimesam » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:51 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Continuity is good only if you have the right pieces. Porter was NOT a good hire. Unfortunately we have followed him with two other bad hires.


I don't understand why porter was a bad hire. Him and his staff did an excellent job his first year. From there, injuries/tanking did in his second season and he never got a second shot. I think if the bucks would've stuck with porter over stotts they'd be in better shape now.
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Post#6 » by Bucks_Revenge » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:19 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Continuity is good only if you have the right pieces. Porter was NOT a good hire. Unfortunately we have followed him with two other bad hires.


how was porter a bad hire
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Post#7 » by MilBucksBackOnTop06 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:13 am

That Charles Oakley player was Zach Randolph and or Ron Artest or both!

I don't know how many times I have to say that...
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Post#8 » by wichmae » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:24 am

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:That Charles Oakley player was Zach Randolph and or Ron Artest or both!

I don't know how many times I have to say that...


considering 97% of the board has you on ignore I think this will suffice...

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