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The Bucks are currently one game behind the Packers for the 8 seed, and 2.5 games behind Atlanta for the 7th seed. The Bucks also have a ton of home games left where they are 13-7 this season. Of the remaining 37 games left, they have 21 home games and 16 road games. Even given the terrible play and the panic that has been shown by this board, the Bucks are probably still going to make the playoffs. Good thing the East sucks.

bucks59 wrote:The Bucks are currently one game behind the Packers for the 8 seed, and 2.5 games behind Atlanta for the 7th seed. The Bucks also have a ton of home games left where they are 13-7 this season. Of the remaining 37 games left, they have 21 home games and 16 road games. Even given the terrible play and the panic that has been shown by this board, the Bucks are probably still going to make the playoffs. Good thing the East sucks.

The Bucks have nothing on the Packers.

You bring up good points, but it's important to remember that all of this is true with the Bucks current team. Who knows, if a "major trade" or a trade involving one or more starters is pulled off (Please do NOT turn this into a Redd hating thread), maybe team chemistry or just an overall improvement in talent could propel us up to the 6th seed.

That's so sad. This team has been awful this season and we're only one game out. We're 9 games below .500 for christ's sake.

skones wrote:That's so sad. This team has been awful this season and we're only one game out. We're 9 games below .500 for christ's sake.

It's really amazing how consistently terrible the East remains. Two great teams, a few good ones but a whole lot of garbage.

I think the East is actually better this year, because there are no truly awful teams. A lot of sub-mediocre parity among the non-top tier teams.

That said, guys in the Western Conference just keep breaking out every year.

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The Bucks have nothing on the Packers.

True, my bad, I meant the Pacers.

The sad thing is that if the Kings played in the East, they would be in the playoffs. They are currently 11th in the West.

It is true that a trade could change things, but my point is just that there is no real need to panic. We dont need to do a major trade and change team chemistry. Bogut is finally starting to develop, Yi has looked great this year. Lets have some consistency and see how this team can do. Who knows, given the amount of home games and how much better this team is at home, the Bucks could finish with the 7th seed and maybe can steal the 6th seed from Washington.

Everyone just needs to calm down and remember that teh East really is terrible.

Let's look at the remaining road games:

Winnable (10): Nets, Sixers, Grizzlies, Nets, Pacers, Heat, Hawks, Bulls, Pacers, Timberwolves.

Likely Losses (6): Mavs, Pistons, Wizards, Wizards, Raptors, Celtics

I say 5-6 wins on the remaining road games (half the winnable and 1 surprise)

Let's look at the remaining home games:

Likely wins(11): Rockets, Knicks, Clippers, Sonics, Blazers, Sixers, Heat, Knicks, Pacers, Nets, Bulls

Tough wins(10): Hornets, Pistons, Nuggets, Cavs, Spurs, Jazz, Celtics, Cavs, Magic, Celtics

I say 11-12 wins on the remaining home games (8 of the likely and 3-4 of the tough ones)

Will 35 wins make the playoffs?

I think that Des Mason's return will be big from an energy/chemistry standpoint.

However, I just can't see a 35 win team making the playoffs.

BuckFan wrote:
Will 35 wins make the playoffs?

At the current rate of the East, 35 wins would be enough. Obviously that could change and some teams could get hot, but the East is so bad that I have no reason to believe that is going to happen.

The other thing to consider is that the Bucks have had some good wins at home this year, it isnt totally inconcievable that they get a couple of those "tough win" games.

The good news is, only 11 games remaining against the West. 3 on the road and 8 at home. 4 of the 11 against 13 or lower win teams.

My 17 remaining wins did include 3-4 wins at home in the tough win column.

35-47 is a .427 percentage and the Pacers currently hold the 8th seed with a .422 percentage.

The most positive thing is that basketball is not maths; so despite I belive we can go to the playoffs with 35 wins, I hope for 38-40 basing on momentum, because, you know, Sport and psycology often cross. We showed what momentum can do in November, when we defeated The Lakers, the Mavs that are A LOT better than us because we were self confident. I always remember the year we traded Ray Allen for Gary Payton we were 31-39 with 12 games to go and out of the playoffs, but we got confidence and we won 11 of the final 12 (that wasn't a great team, but a normal one) and we finished 42-40 and 7th. So I hope we can add at least a couple of victories to your prediction and finish between 37 and 40 wins ( remember we play most of the games against the eastern conf. teams).

Neapolitan Buck wrote:The most positive thing is that basketball is not maths; so despite I belive we can go to the playoffs with 35 wins, I hope for 38-40 basing on momentum, because, you know, Sport and psycology often cross. We showed what momentum can do in November, when we defeated The Lakers, the Mavs that are A LOT better than us because we were self confident. I always remember the year we traded Ray Allen for Gary Payton we were 31-39 with 12 games to go and out of the playoffs, but we got confidence and we won 11 of the final 12 (that wasn't a great team, but a normal one) and we finished 42-40 and 7th. So I hope we can add at least a couple of victories to your prediction and finish between 37 and 40 wins ( remember we play most of the games against the eastern conf. teams).

and the day we traded Ray Allen we were 27-26.

This is exactly why I think that if we want to trade Redd we have to trade him in July and not now, if you don't want to consider this season as an ended one (which is absurd 1 game out of a playoff seed...). We would have to assest ourselves, and we can't at 18-27.

Neapolitan Buck wrote:This is exactly why I think that if we want to trade Redd we have to trade him in July and not now, if you don't want to consider this season as an ended one (which is absurd 1 game out of a playoff seed...). We would have to assest ourselves, and we can't at 18-27.

Where is the hope coming from? One game under .500 for January. Yes the have played better, but that is without Redd. But we are also one game out of the 7th spot of the lotto. Rather get a nice pick than get a 4 game sweep from Boston.

bucks59 wrote:It is true that a trade could change things, but my point is just that there is no real need to panic. We dont need to do a major trade and change team chemistry

Actually, if Redd played all games this year we would not be so close. We eather need to trade him or to hope that he is out for rest of the year.

Neapolitan Buck wrote:This is exactly why I think that if we want to trade Redd we have to trade him in July and not now, if you don't want to consider this season as an ended one (which is absurd 1 game out of a playoff seed...). We would have to assest ourselves, and we can't at 18-27.

I want to agree with you but I feel as longest Redd is on this team we will not be in the playoffs.....he is a selfish player and this team can live and die on his jump shot it's not fair.

The same thing Warriors fans said last April...Obviously I'm not comparing the situations: to me the playoffs are the playoffs. That was exactly what we wanted in July, and we were not saying "It's better not to go to the playoffs than being swept from the no.1 seed".
We just have different toughts.

Hope is coming from playing in a bad conference, in which even if we are a bad team, there are a lot of teams worse than us. Houston Rockets fans should be less optimistic than us about this season, if you think about it. The are 2 games behind the 8th seed, and they play 52 of the 82 games against Western conference teams; we are 1 game out of the playoffs with 52 of the 82 games against Eastern conference teams with a lot of home games to come.
I understand you are saying we need improvements a lot more than the Rockets, even if they play against better opponents, which makes their virtual value lower than their real value. Think about THIS season, because we can get the right pieces to complete the puzzle for the years to come with some trades; we have a ton of talent and youth to trade, in the offseason.

Let's just say if Bogut is playing like he is now for the rest of the year I'll be much more confident moving forward that I wouldn't feel it was necessary for us to tank. So if Bogut keeps playing like an all-star center then I'm all for shooting for the playoffs.