Would you make this Redd trade?

DH34Phan · Post #1 » by **DH34Phan** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:12 pm

Famous one, but I wanna get people thoughts again.

Bucks trade:
Michael Redd
Charlie Villanueva

Utah trades:
Andrei Kirilenko
Ronnie Brewer

Ivey/ Bell
Mo/ Brewer
Simmons/ Mason
Kirilenko/ Yi
Bogut/ Ruffin

As Freeway says, "I'll do that one".

trwi7 · Post #2 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:14 pm

Yeah, Utah wouldn't though.

DH34Phan · Post #3 » by **DH34Phan** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:15 pm

trwi7 wrote:Yeah, Utah wouldn't though.

I don't know, with Redd they would be stacked.

D. Williams
Redd
Harpring
Boozer
Okur

They lose a little youth with Brewer, but get CV in return. Maybe Sloan can coach him up.

Fight the Tank · Post #4 » by **Fight the Tank** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:16 pm

I don't think Utah makes it even if Almond is substituted for Brewer. Sloan would kill Charlie Villanueva for his lack of defense and Redd isn't much better in that regard.

midranger · Post #5 » by **midranger** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:18 pm

No reason for Utah to do this. ther offense is top notch (last I checked at least) their defense is bottom tier (ditto). No way they trade their two best defensive players for two guys allergic to defense.

Fight the Tank · Post #6 » by **Fight the Tank** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:21 pm

I have not watched much of Brewer personally but what i have heard is that he is in Sloan's doghouse for not playing D.

Newz · Post #7 » by **Newz** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:21 pm

I wouldn't, personally.

The deal I want to try to make is with Houston. (If we trade Redd)

Redd + Bell + CV for Battier + James + Scola + Snyder + Brooks + 1st

RELEASE: Storey, Noel

Bogut - Voshkuhl - (Gadzuric)
Scola - Yi - Ruffin
Battier - Simmons - Mason
Mo - (Snyder)
James - Brooks - Ivey - (Sessions)

() Indicates inactive or in the D-league.

Gives you solid role players who have experience playing inside out basketball. It gives the team a enormous defensive boost and really makes us deeper. It also gives us a solid PF to play along side Bogut until Yi is developed and a bigger defensive minded PG.

We scoop up a draft pick and in this scenario I'd probably look to move Mo to the combo guard role off of the bench and try to draft a starting SG (Like an Eric Gordon) with our pick and then some more depth with Houston's.

We develop Aaron Brooks to be the future PG for the team and we could even use Houston's pick to try and relieve ourself of Gadzuric or Simmons salary.

DH34Phan · Post #8 » by **DH34Phan** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:23 pm

Luke, Houston won't want Redd unless they are trading McGrady.

Newz · Post #9 » by **Newz** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:24 pm

DH34Phan wrote:Luke, Houston won't want Redd unless they are trading McGrady.

I don't see why not.

Alston/Redd/TMac/Hayes/Yao is about as good of a starting line-up as their is in the NBA.

Sideways · Post #10 » by **Sideways** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:31 pm

Hell yes. Without thinking twice.

midranger · Post #11 » by **midranger** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:35 pm

I agree that the Rox would like Redd with TMac on the team. They maybe one of the few teams that could use Gadzuric as well.

Redd + Gadz

for

Battier + 1st + crap contracts that would be cut

REDDzone · Post #12 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:38 pm

Bogutneedsball wrote:I have not watched much of Brewer personally but what i have heard is that he is in Sloan's doghouse for not playing D.

Yep, saw a quote from Sloan saying he has been benching Brewer lately in 4th quarters because of lack of defensive intensity.

Too lazy to find it though.

REDDzone · Post #13 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:40 pm

Regarding Brewer's benching, coach Jerry Sloan said, "I don't know if I made the right choice or not...Ronnie has got to work a lot harder defensively. With his athletic ability, he's got get up and guard guys. He can't back off of them and give them open jumpers." It's too early to tell if this arrangement will persist, but it's not a good sign that Kyle Korver's defense is earning him more minutes. Hopefully this is the wakeup call Brewer needed.

This was on a fantasy basketball site that scooped the quote from a Utah paper I believe.

I'd make the trade in a second, but I'm not buying that a Mo/Brewer backcourt is good enough defensively even then.

dunhill · Post #14 » by **dunhill** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:42 pm

Had they not gotten Kyle Korver they probably would of bit. Had the Bucks kept Skinner they would've more than likely bit if sent with Redd.

they needed a 3pt threat they got one for peanuts. They need a legit defensive bigman (skinner) to help Okur. No one in the Bucks fits that bill. the Okur to Jarrod Collins is massive drop in talent

DH34Phan · Post #15 » by **DH34Phan** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:42 pm

REDDzone wrote:
I'd make the trade in a second, but I'm not buying that a Mo/Brewer backcourt is good enough defensively even then.

I like the Ivey/Mo backcourt, with Bell and Brewer as their primary backups. That's a pretty good 4 man rotation.

DH34Phan · Post #16 » by **DH34Phan** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:42 pm

REDDzone wrote:I'd make the trade in a second, but I'm not buying that a Mo/Brewer backcourt is good enough defensively even then.

I like the Ivey/Mo backcourt, with Bell and Brewer as their primary backups. That's a pretty good 4 man rotation.

BobbyLight · Post #17 » by **BobbyLight** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:44 pm

This is my favorite Redd trade idea, but I don't know if it would happen. This gives us one hell of a defender and shot blocker along with a player young and talented enough to be good one day. I'd be thrilled if this happened.

jeremyd236 · Post #18 » by **jeremyd236** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:48 pm

I would do this trade, but Utah wouldn't and China would be pissed of Yi sat the bench. AK47 could come off the bench and play significant time at the 3/4.

None of this matters because Utah already has Kyle Korver, why would they trade for Redd?

A better trade would trying to get AK47 for CV, Simmons, and a 1st.

Mo/Ivey
Redd/Bell
AK47/Mason
Yi/Ruffin
Bogut/Voskul/Gadz

Sigra · Post #19 » by **Sigra** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:48 pm

I voted yes and I didn't even want to read what it is about. At this moment I would do ANY trade where we get rid of Redd

BobbyLight · Post #20 » by **BobbyLight** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:57 pm

Does the "They already have Korver, why get Redd" way of thinking really make sense? I mean I am as sick of Redd as the next guy but Redd is about 100 times the player Korver is. Korver is a great spot up shooter and that's about it. Redd can score in any fashion imaginable. I mean seriously, Redd is one of the best scorers in the leauge. he just isn't making the Bucks a better team because of it.