My 3-Step Plan To Blow This Thing To Hell

[europa]

Disclaimer: None of this will ever happen and I realize some if not all of the moves (outside of the one advocating a Redd trade) will likely be opposed in this forum. So I'm doing this primarily for entertainment value. But I think all of the trades listed below are realistic and certainly would enable the Bucks to s**tcan this mess and start over.

So here goes:

Step 1: Trade Redd/Yi/Voskuhl to the Clippers for Brand and Maggette. I mentioned this proposal in another thread. I think it makes sense for both teams - especially if Brand is leaning toward opting out of his contract and bolting LA. The Clips get an upgrade at SG, are finally rid of Maggette who has major issues with Dunleavy and they add a young PF to replace Brand. The Bucks get a major upgrade at PF and a serviceable SG to replace Redd (or Maggette's expiring contract could be used in another deal). The key is making sure Brand will stay in Milwaukee. If he will, make the deal.

Step 2: Trade Mo/Dez/Storee/Ruffin to Atlanta for Josh Childress/Speedy Claxton and Acie Law. Another trade that makes sense for both teams. The Hawks are looking for a PG; the Bucks badly need a SF. Mo steps into the starting lineup for Atlanta and Childress becomes the Bucks' SF of the future. As a restricted free agent, the Bucks should be able to keep him for a ML deal next summer.

Step 3: Trade Villanueva/2008 second to Memphis for Kyle Lowry/Hakeem Warrick. This one is a little dicier but I still think it's realistic. The Grizzlies are reportedly shopping Lowry and while Rudy Gay already plays PF he might be better suited long term to the SF position. Villanueva gives them a young PF to use in their rebuilding plan while Lowry steps into the starting PG position for Milwaukee and Warrick starts at PF this season but moves to the bench next year.

So for the remainder of this season, the lineup would be:

PG: Lowry/Law/Ivey/Sessions
SG: Maggette/Bell
SF: Childress/Simmons
PF: Warrick
C: Bogut/Gadz

The PF position is obviously weak for the rest of this season but does that really matter at this point? Next season you add Brand and a high lottery pick to the mix which should strengthen the team considerably.

[Fight the Tank]

Change is good and this is a massive blow up. I love the Lowry/Law at the point. That could be really good moving forward.

[pilprin]

As much as I like Yi - I'd do them all. I'd like a bit better PF like Haslem, but I could live with that. OOPs I forgot Brand would be our PF.

Okay, I'd love it.

[MickeyDavis]

I'm all for a whole new team.

[steger_3434]

I'd do all three as well. I don't think ATL would do the second trade, but very well done Europa.

[El Duderino]

I'm all for a whole new team.

Yep

Honestly, i need to see huge changes for me to stay interested next year. Nuclear bomb to the team, not a BB gun, even if the moves are risky.

As for those trades.

1. I'd do it, i question is Sterling would take Redd's contract

2. I like Mo more than some others here, but his just horrid defense has worn me down and am ready to move on from him.

3. Memphis hits the reject button on that trade i think

[europa]

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3. Memphis hits the reject button on that trade i think

Yea that one is dicier like I said. The problem is Villanueva makes twice as much as Lowry so something else needs to be added. I think the Grizzlies would think about a deal involving Lowry for Villanueva. The key would be figuring out the rest of the deal to make it work.

I don't think ATL would do the second trade

Well they didn't want to sign Mo last summer so if they still feel that way about him then probably not. However, if they strike out for a proven PG such as Miller, Bibby or Kidd, this deal could work. The biggest reason for them to make it could be to get something of value for Childress given how he'll hit free agency next season (restricted) and so will Josh Smith. So they may not have enough money to pay both or they may decide they won't want to pay both. And they have something like 500 SFs on their roster so Childress could be dealt without leaving a glaring hole.

[LUKE23]

I would do trades 1 and 3. I would like to keep Mo unless we can get an upgrade at PG, and I am not high on Law at all (he's more of a scorer than a creator, and he's not going to be that great of a scorer). I would just draft Collison (who will be better than Law) if we want another PG.

[paulpressey25]

Bogut should be untouchable......Yi also should be untouchable simply because his economic value not only to this franchise but the Milwaukee business community is immense. If we want this franchise to stay here long term, we need wins and we also need corporations to have sponsorships and buy those lower bowl season tickets. Yi's business power extends far beyond just a few extra dollars for Kohl on signage at the BC.

But other than those two guys, I'm up for anything.....I agree that Lowry would theoretically be available. He would be a guy to target.

[Nebula1]

wow.

Or we could just draft Batum.

[europa]

I would do trades 1 and 3. I would like to keep Mo unless we can get an upgrade at PG, and I am not high on Law at all (he's more of a scorer than a creator, and he's not going to be that great of a scorer). I would just draft Collison (who will be better than Law) if we want another PG.

Lowry would be the starting PG, not Law. I like Law's potential but I really like Lowry and at worst if both Lowry and Law emerge (and even Sessions), now the Bucks have an asset to trade in the future.

And I know I'm going to come off sounding like a MoHater but Josh Childress is pretty darn good in my opinion and I wouldn't hesitate to trade Mo for him. I'm not sure if a lot of folks know how good Childress is. I think he's flying way under the radar.

And Press, I agree about the benefits Yi brings but the rather gigantic upgrade to Brand would be more than worth it. There's no way to know if Yi will ever be as good as Brand clearly is. Maybe he will be but I'd rather taken the proven guy who's one of the best players at his position.

[WEFFPIM]

Done. Let's go liquor up LA and Atlanta and get these done (Memphis will do anything, no need to inebriate them).

[bango_the_buck]

I think we need to either try and win now (trade our young pieces for solid veterans) or start over (trade our veterans and go young). These moves are a weird mix - we're basically just reshuffling the deck without a clear direction. I don't think that's going to help us get anywhere...

[El Duderino]

I would do trades 1 and 3. I would like to keep Mo unless we can get an upgrade at PG, and I am not high on Law at all (he's more of a scorer than a creator, and he's not going to be that great of a scorer). I would just draft Collison (who will be better than Law) if we want another PG.

After years of watching Mo and TJ play horrible defense at the PG position, i love watching Collison for UCLA. His offensive skills need some work, but it would be a beautiful shock to my system seeing a kid like Collison playing point guard for the Bucks and actually trying his hardest to lock down his man.

Hell, it might make me do a double take and i'd have to make sure it wasn't just a dream that a Milwaukee Bucks PG was actually playing defense.

[fam3381]

I can't imagine us shipping out Yi at this point...as PP said, the Bucks just seem way too intent on using him to curry favor with local/state business in addition to his on-court talents. He's obviously not a proven commodity right now but I'd be shocked if any team was willing to offer the talent that the Bucks would likely demand for him.

[europa]

I don't think Yi gets traded either. When Kohl turned down Marion for him on draft night the die was cast. Again, I don't think any of these trades will happen; they are just ideas I came up with that I do believe would be realistic if pursued and would make the Bucks a better team and perhaps a significantly better team in the near future. And it would accomplish the goal of blowing this terrible team to hell and starting over.

[paulpressey25]

-= And Press, I agree about the benefits Yi brings but the rather gigantic upgrade to Brand would be more than worth it. .

For you on the court yes. For the economy of southeastern Wisconsin..no. Every small and large manufacturer is right now trying to line up deals in China and using "Yi's town" as the calling card. If those deals get done, Kohl now has a much larger motivated corporate base to sell tickets to and maybe sell the team to someday. All critical for this team staying here long-term. Yi's worth much more than Bogut right now as far as a tipping point wild card to stabilize the franchise in Milwaukee.

We can field a winning team and keep Yi at the same time. There is plenty to work with......and that assumes that Yi only gets marginally better than he is now. He does have game changing upside to him. And is a motivated guy unlike CV, TT, etc.....he's a keeper.

[bango_the_buck]

Also, these moves don't rid us of our bad contract/malcontents (e.g. Simmons). We have talent, mismatched as it maybe. I think if we can get rid of our dead weight and remove the cancers from the locker room, we'll be in pretty good shape moving forward (though admittedly, that's no easy task)...

[Fight the Tank]

The thing about Yi is he just isn't very fun to watch yet. I hope that changes though.

[Newz]

No way the Clippers do that. Elton Brand is capable of playing on a near superstar level when he is healthy. Maybe throw in our first pick unprotected and we'd have a shot at it.

The second trade I don't think ATL would do because they are hoping Law pretty much becomes a better Mo Williams at this point. They get him for cheaper for the next 5 years.

I would do CV for Lowry/Warrick, but I highly doubt that they would...


IMO, I would do something like this if I had 3 trades to make:

CV for Pietrus
Voshkuhl + Ruffin + 2nd for Watson
Yi + Simmons + Gadzuric + Bell + 1st (Unprotected) for Jermaine O'Neal + Diogu + Harrison

Bogut - Harrison
O'Neal - Diogu
Pietrus - Mason - Noel
Redd - Mo - Storey
Watson - Ivey - Sessions

Makes us a ridiculously better defensive team. Makes Mo a premier 6th man. We get another all-star level player in O'Neal who isn't a long term commitment if we don't want him (He expires after next year). We get rid of our worst contracts.