OT: Nets/Mavs Deal Complete

Cold Crush 24 · Post #1 » by **Cold Crush 24** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:36 am

The great KVH has agreed to be paid 4 million dollars to sit on an inactive list. The Jason Kidd to Dallas deal is signed sealed and delivered.

Hopefully we won't have to face the mighty DeSagana Diop in the East playoffs!

Fort Minor · Post #2 » by **Fort Minor** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:44 am

KVH is one lucky ******.

NotYoAvgNBAFan · Post #3 » by **NotYoAvgNBAFan** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:53 pm

Excellent deal by an experienced NBA GM in Rod Thorn. Thorn even got two first round picks from Dallas and G Devin Harris.

So what did they really lose in the deal? Kidd?

Please...Devin Harris maybe more suitable for them in the long run, with PG Marcus Williams as his back up!

You added Diop and you added Stromile Swift...and I like Maurice Ager as well...

This is the type of deal the Bucks should me making. Thorn is still one of the best going on...

Mags FTW · Post #4 » by **Mags FTW** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:36 pm

^^^^^^^^
MBBOT minus the emoticons?

step3profit · Post #5 » by **step3profit** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:46 pm

Mags FTW wrote:^^^^^^^^
MBBOT minus the emoticons?

{spartacus}I am MBBOT{/spartacus}

jerrod · Post #6 » by **jerrod** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:26 pm

Mags FTW wrote:^^^^^^^^
MBBOT minus the emoticons?

i thought the same thing before seeing your post

1. i love the fact that even after he stops playing, kvh still gets traded
2. lucky b**** :banghead:

Post #7 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:04 pm

I can confirm that is indeed MBBOT's new handle.

jerrod · Post #8 » by **jerrod** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:07 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I can confirm that is indeed MBBOT's new handle.

it was the "pg marcus williams" part that gave it away for me

75totheMACCfund · Post #9 » by **75totheMACCfund** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:54 pm

why did keith van horn quit the league after only 7 or so years?

worthlessBucks · Post #10 » by **worthlessBucks** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:02 pm

75totheMACCfund wrote:why did keith van horn quit the league after only 7 or so years?

I believe he wanted to spend time with his family and he was sick of being traded every few years, which forced Keith to relocate them. Very comical that he got traded again, but the 4 million will ease his pain.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #11 » by **Buck You** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:50 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I can confirm that is indeed MBBOT's new handle.

Why didn't he just change his name? Won't he get banned for having 2 separate accounts?

WEFFPIM · Post #12 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:52 pm

Oh the glorious return of MBBOT

Post #13 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:07 pm

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:-=
Why didn't he just change his name? Won't he get banned for having 2 separate accounts?

Multiple personalities deserve multiple accounts...right?

No, in all seriousness, he wanted to change his name, but I think it wasn't moving fast enough. We'll square it up.

trwi7 · Post #14 » by **trwi7** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:09 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I can confirm that is indeed MBBOT's new handle.

Post #15 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:26 pm

I think New Jersey won this trade in a big way.......

Devin is a good young PG.

Diop is a good shotblocking center.....

Then you get these picks:
Dallas surrendered first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, although the Mavericks will keep their 2008 pick and surrender picks in 2009 and 2011 if they fail to make the playoffs this season. There is no protection on the 2010 (or 2011) first-round pick, Thorn said.

An unprotected pick in 2010 could come back to haunt Dallas.....

Even if Kidd wanted to play in Milwaukee, we couldn't nor should we have tried to present any offer like that. A Mo/CV/Simmons offer can't stack up with what Dallas got. We really don't have much to deal outside Bogut and Yi....and even those guys might not be worth as much as we think.

PaBuck · Post #16 » by **PaBuck** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:24 pm

From Mark Cuban's view, it is a good deal. The time is getting close when the Mavs had to take a shot just as the Suns did with Shaq. Granted it is a gamble, but a calculated, legit gamble. With the Bucks out of the picture, the Mavs are my playoffs team. Sorrry for pulling a Huckabee here!

europa · Post #17 » by **europa** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:42 pm

I like the deal from the Mavs' perspective. They badly needed a strong leader on the court - that's never been a role Dirk's been all that comfortable with - and they badly need mental toughness. Kidd provides both. He won't melt down in the pressure of a big game in the playoffs the way the Mavs did last year against Golden State, for example. Kidd may not be enough for the Mavs to win a title but they weren't going to win one with what they had. It was a bold, aggressive move and a smart one in my opinion. As much as I like Devin Harris, I'd much rather have the proven producer who can still play at an elite level.

For the Nets, I see considerable risk. Harris isn't close to being the player Kidd is and may never get close to that level. Diop is a good defender but good teams know how to find players like that without breaking the bank. And the picks could be low enough to be just out of reach of a quality starter and more in line with what you hope are solid role players. Harris and a couple of solid role players for Jason Kidd doesn't sound like that good of a trade but obviously we won't know for some time what happens with those picks.

Chuck Diesel · Post #18 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:44 pm

Too bad for Devin.

europa · Post #19 » by **europa** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:53 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Too bad for Devin.

Yup. The only thing that would probably be worse would be if he was traded back home.

DH34Phan · Post #20 » by **DH34Phan** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:10 pm

Amazing deal for the Nets.

Get a player in Devin that statistically is better than Kidd, and has a great contract.

Getting Diop will help their front-line depth, and maybe they can sign him this offseason.

The 2 future 1sts only help their rebuilding process even more.

Compared to the Gasol deal, the Nets got amazing value for Kidd.