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Hunt Calls Out Kohl Again
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:26 am
by LUKE23
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:36 am
by trwi7
Bah I have such a great joke to use here but I'll get in trouble so I'll keep it to myself.
Anyways, I agree, keep it coming.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:38 am
by ACGB
Hunt is going to find a bango head in his bed tomorrow morning
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:40 am
by ACGB
trwi7 wrote:Bah I have such a great joke to use here but I'll get in trouble so I'll keep it to myself.
Anyways, I agree, keep it coming.
Does it involve....Mike Hunt......

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:41 am
by trwi7
ALLCAPSGOBUCKS wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Does it involve....Mike Hunt......

Yes.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:45 am
by NeedsMoreCheese
Change the title to Mike Hunt calls out Herb Kohl
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:47 am
by ACGB
How about "Mike Hunt is on fire!!!"
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:48 am
by Kerb Hohl
"Herb Kohl decides to stay away from Mike Hunt"
But we already knew this...
Re: Hunt Calls Out Kohl Again
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:10 am
by GrandAdmiralDan
LUKE23 wrote:http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=720803
Keep it coming.
Well, it is good that Hunt is putting forth the effort but he always gets too many things wrong for me to get behind what he writes.
In this article, for example, he implies that Harris wanted to acquire Zach Randolph when that is simply not true (our soon to be GM Dave Babcock didn't want to acquire Zach Randolph either).
Hunt constantly gets thing wrong and engages in spurious implications, whether it is him completely misrepresenting the Bucks salary cap situation, talking about how the Bucks could have had Dirk Nowitzki on the team along with the Big Three (or even at all), etc.
Some will say things like "That's just nitpicking" or "The important thing is that he is going after Kohl" but that is just not good enough. It is no excuse.
And I find it ironic that anyone would excuse Hunt's mediocre (I'm being kind) journalism considering the target of his criticism lately is the source of the Bucks mediocrity quagmire.
If you want to let Hunt off the hook because "at least he is criticizing Kohl" then you should be letting Kohl off the hook too because "at least he keeps the team in Milwaukee."
That mindset is what has allowed Senator Kohl to skate through his wretched tenure as owner relatively unscathed and many/most, perhaps even all of us have probably fallen victim to that mindset and made that excuse for Kohl at some point in our lives as Bucks' fans.
But I was hoping, and I had thought, that we had finally broken the bonds of that mantra of mediocrity. Let's not relapse back into that way of thinking simply because Hunt is joining us against Kohl.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:27 am
by jokeboy86
Now watch Begel come and defend his dear friend Kohl. To Begel, Kohl can do no wrong.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:28 am
by unklchuk
Enlund's story tonight had this little bit:
"What kind of tweaking?
"I'm not sure," [Bogut] said. "The (management) has to figure out a future plan and what they want to do. What core group they want to keep and who they want as backups."
Bogut was just saying the usual stuff. How it was OK there were no trades because summer would be a good time for tweaking. Reporter Tom, in what passes for a hard-hitting question at the J-S country club, asked what kind of tweaking?
And Bogut innocently said the part I like. "The (management) has to figure out a future plan and what they want to do."
I'd love to see management with a plan. What a concept! Organizing where you want to go and how to get there. Revolutionary!
Having a Plan could be our new paradigm. We could emblazon it on sweatshirts and they'd fly off the racks at $70 each. We could sell tons of them in China. Free agents would flock to Milwaukee to sit at the foot of the plan.
But my enthusiasm races ahead of my logic. A Plan would constrict us. Make us evaluate each and every move to see if it led in the right direction. Epi would have to work far too hard to chart all the parameters, isolate the variables, and predicate the outcomes.
Our style now is free flowing and jauntily idiosyncratic - not narrow and confining. It gives carte blanche to do anything. Or... to do nothing.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:08 am
by step3profit
unklchuk wrote:Enlund's story tonight had this little bit:
"What kind of tweaking?
"I'm not sure," [Bogut] said. "The (management) has to figure out a future plan and what they want to do. What core group they want to keep and who they want as backups."
Bogut was just saying the usual stuff. How it was OK there were no trades because summer would be a good time for tweaking. Reporter Tom, in what passes for a hard-hitting question at the J-S country club, asked what kind of tweaking?
And Bogut innocently said the part I like. "The (management) has to figure out a future plan and what they want to do."
I'd love to see management with a plan. What a concept! Organizing where you want to go and how to get there. Revolutionary!
Having a Plan could be our new paradigm. We could emblazon it on sweatshirts and they'd fly off the racks at $70 each. We could sell tons of them in China. Free agents would flock to Milwaukee to sit at the foot of the plan.
But my enthusiasm races ahead of my logic. A Plan would constrict us. Make us evaluate each and every move to see if it led in the right direction. Epi would have to work far too hard to chart all the parameters, isolate the variables, and predicate the outcomes.
Our style now is free flowing and jauntily idiosyncratic - not narrow and confining. It gives carte blanche to do anything. Or... to do nothing.
in other words, the bucks are currently the Somalia of the NBA.
Re: Hunt Calls Out Kohl Again
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:56 am
by El Duderino
GrandAdmiralDan wrote:LUKE23 wrote:http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=720803
Keep it coming.
Well, it is good that Hunt is putting forth the effort but he always gets too many things wrong for me to get behind what he writes.
In this article, for example, he implies that Harris wanted to acquire Zach Randolph when that is simply not true (our soon to be GM Dave Babcock didn't want to acquire Zach Randolph either).
Hunt constantly gets thing wrong and engages in spurious implications, whether it is him completely misrepresenting the Bucks salary cap situation, talking about how the Bucks could have had Dirk Nowitzki on the team along with the Big Three (or even at all), etc.
Some will say things like "That's just nitpicking" or "The important thing is that he is going after Kohl" but that is just not good enough. It is no excuse.
And I find it ironic that anyone would excuse Hunt's mediocre (I'm being kind) journalism considering the target of his criticism lately is the source of the Bucks mediocrity quagmire.
If you want to let Hunt off the hook because "at least he is criticizing Kohl" then you should be letting Kohl off the hook too because "at least he keeps the team in Milwaukee."
That mindset is what has allowed Senator Kohl to skate through his wretched tenure as owner relatively unscathed and many/most, perhaps even all of us have probably fallen victim to that mindset and made that excuse for Kohl at some point in our lives as Bucks' fans.
But I was hoping, and I had thought, that we had finally broken the bonds of that mantra of mediocrity. Let's not relapse back into that way of thinking simply because Hunt is joining us against Kohl.
What's your thoughts on why Hunt can't get things right, like in the case of think Harris was after Randolph or the Bucks reporters never being able to break stories?
Lack of sources? Laziness? Mix of both?
How is it that a message board and a sports writer from a tiny paper in Racine have much better insight to what goes on with the Bucks compared to the biggest newspaper in Milwaukee?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:29 am
by dedned
Mike Hunt Keep It Coming
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:04 am
by beyond_the_arc
Somalia has better weather.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:38 am
by g77g77
"I'm not sure," [Bogut] said. "The (management) has to figure out a future plan and what they want to do. What core group they want to keep and who they want as backups."
they need the "PLANNING TO PLAN" chart.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:03 pm
by Wise1
"Unless Kohl already has a very strong, very independent basketball man picked out to sort through the clutter, it doesn't reflect well on the Bucks' chances to convince a strong, independent basketball man that he would be given the autonomy to run the franchise the right way. Don Nelson, George Karl and Ernie Grunfeld were strong, independent NBA people, yet it ended badly in all three cases."
As a fan of the franchise, this passage strikes right to the heart of my fears. Herb Kohl appears to be more comfortable working with men that he can control without repercussion than strong, independant personalities. I have my doubts about Kohl bringing in a "strong" NBA executive to clean up this mess.
We know nothing about Kohl's long term plan for this franchise outside of the fact that he appears to be committed to keeping the team in Milwaukee. Who would Kohl feel comfortable enough negotiating with and selling the team to? It certainly wasn't the strong willed Michael Jordan and his potential group of buyers.
Kohl is no spring chicken and there apparently are no heirs lined up to take over the reigns if the unfortunate should happen and Kohl passes away. What then?
I hope to hell that I don't wake up one morning and find out that fitness guru Richard Simmons is the new owner of the Milwaukee Bucks.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:37 pm
by crkone
Wise1 wrote:I hope to hell that I don't wake up one morning and find out that fitness guru Richard Simmons is the new owner of the Milwaukee Bucks.
Why? I bet he would love sweatin' to Streetlife. And if we get Randolph over the summer, he could get him and Bobby into shape.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:10 pm
by MickeyDavis
Hunt may get some details wrong from time to time but I'm glad Garry Howard is finally, FINALLY, allowing his rag to criticize Herb. It was a long time coming.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:17 pm
by DPGBucks