CV's Trade Value Rising?

[raferfenix]

There's no doubt he's been playing a whole lot better since he got the starting job. However, the deficincies in his game still remain regarding inconsistent effort, especially on defense, while also being greedy on offense.

Depsite that, him proving he still has the potential of a great score as well as showing he's healthy should improve his trade value. The question is how much?

I think we desperately need to exorcise the lazy and selfihs elements off this team, most definitely including CV. Hopefully we can now use him to leverage more of these kinds of players into some guys who can help us a lot now, rather htan just salary dumps.

[trwi7]

I would take CV over Yi.

[midranger]

There's no doubt he's been playing a whole lot better since he got the starting job. However, the deficincies in his game still remain regarding inconsistent effort, especially on defense, while also being greedy on offense.

Depsite that, him proving he still has the potential of a great score as well as showing he's healthy should improve his trade value. The question is how much?

I think we desperately need to exorcise the lazy and selfihs elements off this team, most definitely including CV. Hopefully we can now use him to leverage more of these kinds of players into some guys who can help us a lot now, rather htan just salary dumps.

We'd be left with Noel and Sessions.

[paulpressey25]

I think you weigh what CV can bring in a deal.....if all he brings back is say a "Mickeal Pietrus" then I'd hang onto him and take him into RFA the summer after next.

If he brings something big-time or is part of a bigger package then make the move.

[midranger]

I think CV for Kyle Lowry is a good deal all-around.

I do think that we lose from a talent stand point, but probably win from a fit/chemistry standpoint.

Perhaps they could toss in a 2nd.

[Johnny Newman]

With CV low salary. He would need another player packaged with him to get something decent in return.

[MickeyDavis]

His impending extension will be an issue. Just how much is this guy worth salary wise?

[midranger]

His impending extension will be an issue. Just how much is this guy worth salary wise?

I'd rather let someone else figure that out.

[Diggr14]

Right now, this team needs Charlie on it. When Yi comes back he will not work for the inside shot like Charlie does sometimes. Yi is strictly a jump shooter, he is not a good defender right now, and he is not the best rebounder either.

CV provides some stability on the nights that Yi is off. As a matter of fact, until Yi proves he is better than CV on the court, CV should start.

The way I see it, Larry Harris and Larry Krystoviak will be let go at the end of the year (a good thing.. Larry K just looks lost as a coach. He looks really bad- he get zero respect from officials too.) Once they are gone, the bucks can look to move a couple of their contracts in the offseason probably 1 of them coupled with Michael Redd in a deal and another maybe as a junk for junk swap.

Personally, I hope the Bucks get a tough coach with a ton of energy. I hope they get a fiery guy that will not take crap from some of these players on this team. Larry K looks like a neutered dog out there. He really needs to learn how to blow his lid and make the officials actually respect him as a coach. Right now, they just blow him off and run him over.

Michael Redd is a good player to have, but when he is on the court typically the ball movement stalls. The other night he had 9 assists I believe and today he turns into a ball hog again. He is at his best when he is looking to pass.

Andrew Bogut was pouting again today. Im growing very sick of it. I think he is a good player, but if you want to pout... F-off and go back to Australia and do that. You might be a talented player, but you really havent done squat yet in the NBA.

Mo Williams needs to learn that really big girls should not go on top. If he is going to break his junk or sprain his junk.. he needs to be careful! It's a dangerous world.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

His impending extension will be an issue. Just how much is this guy worth salary wise?

It is very unlikely at this point that Villanueva will end up signing an extension (either with the Bucks or with anyone else). He will likely play out next season and then become a restricted free agent.

[raferfenix]

If we keep either Mo or Redd I don't think our team can afford to give minutes to a PF who doesn't even try at defense. He may be better than Yi, but Yi at least tries on defense and has a high ceiling for improvement on that end.

I agree that getting Mickael Pietrus kind of guy would be extremely low value for CV, but I think we need to commit to giving hard working defenders minutes. If we trade mo and redd for those kind of guys I'd feel differently, but giving big minutes to even two players who just don't care about defense will prevent us from changing the losing mentality that we've had for what seems like forever now.

[msiris]

CV quit on his team , because he was not a starter. Another guy with a big head who does not think he needs to prove himself.

[raferfenix]

CV quit on his team , because he was not a starter. Another guy with a big head who does not think he needs to prove himself.

great point, especially considering the thrashing Bogut (deservedly) is getting today.

[midranger]

I agree. Guys giving spotty effort should not be here.

[jerrod]

when did cv quit on the team?

when he was getting 14 minutes a game? i'd say the team quit on him until they needed him when yi went down

[midranger]

when did cv quit on the team?

when he was getting 14 minutes a game? i'd say the team quit on him until they needed him when yi went down

Another good point. It was still his duty to give full effort though.

[raferfenix]

The reason CV wasn't getting 20+ minutes a night was becsue we desperately needed defensive help, which Ruffin provided. If CV was ever willing to give more effort ont hat end of the court, if only by rebounding harder, then he would have gotten more minutes.

I don't buy this argument that the team quit on him. Our depht has always been trash---there are few teams in the league where CV would have had as great an opportunity to earn mintues, even if they started off the bench.

Fact of the matter is he got outplayed by a rookie from China at the beginning, and it only took Yi collpasing for him to grab minutes by default. CV never upped his intensity on defense to try to earn the minutes by playing the sort of ball our team is desperate for to win. So now he's scoring a lot while our team continues to lose---great. doesn't mean he should have any part of our future, as we're more desperate than ever for a player the exact opposite of CV at PF.

[jerrod]

it took yi playing like crap for a month and then an injury for him to get a real chance

[midranger]

it took yi playing like crap for a month and then an injury for him to get a real chance

Two months.

[jerrod]

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Two months.

i couldn't remember so i went with a conservative estimate


can you believe people are willing to blame absolutely everyone/thing else if bogut doesn't give the effort.

but cv gets treated like crap and noone says a thing