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Landing another lotto pick.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:06 am
by midranger
I read somewhere (I honestly can't remember where) that the Clippers may be interested in dealing their lotto pick for established talent. The thought being that Brand, Kaman, and Maggette are ready now, but need some help. Specifically, help at the SG and PG.

Bucks Trade:
Michael Redd
Charlie Villanueva

Bucks Get:
Tim Thomas
Cuttino Mobley
Clippers Pick Currently #6


Clippers Trade:
Tim Thomas
Cuttino Mobley
Pick

Clippers Get:
Michael Redd
Kyle Lowry


Memphis Trades:
Kyle Lowry

Memphis Gets:
Charlie Villanueva

Leaves the Clippers with a starting lineup of...

Lowry
Redd
Maggette
Brand
Kaman

Leaves us with two lotto picks and two contracts that are more manageable and a year shorter than Redd alone. We'd have a big time glut at SF, so Simmons and/or Thomas would have to be moved in a separate deal.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:08 am
by trwi7
I would do it.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:09 am
by midranger
It only works if we really like the talent in the top half of the lotto.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:21 am
by midranger
Follow-Up Trade Alert

Bell
Gadzuric
Simmons

to Denver for

Kenyon Martin
Steven Hunter

Leaves us with...

Mo Williams
Cuttino Mobley
Desmond Mason
Yi
Bogut

Kenyon Martin
Tim Thomas
Ramon Sessions
David Noel

2 Mid-Lotto picks

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:39 am
by Nowak008
Sounds pretty fair for the Bucks and Clips. Don't see the griz trading lowry for CV though.

Trading Redd for their pick would be great. Hopefully that would mean two top 8 picks. The possibilities would be endless.

Bayless/Mayo
Collison/Gordon
Mayo/Gallinari
Collison/Mayo

:droop:

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:59 pm
by LISTEN2JAZZ
I like this trade. I posted a similar one a week ago, saying that between us and the Clippers we should put together one contending team, and one rebuilding team. Either send us Brand for Yi and our lotto pick, or have us send Redd for their pick.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:12 pm
by skones
Another idea that may or may not be possible with the Clippers:

Redd
Mo

for

Mobley
Thomas
Livingston
Thornton
2008 1st via LAC

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:28 pm
by worthlessBucks
I'm all for targeting the Clippers pick (have had my sights on it for awhile). I saw a thread regarding them trading the pick on the Blazers board, didn't see a story though but that might be where you saw the topic midranger.

skones wrote:Another idea that may or may not be possible with the Clippers:

Redd
Mo

for

Mobley
Thomas
Livingston
Thornton
2008 1st via LAC

I'm thinking the Clippers would want something else if they give us Livingston, Thornton, and their #1 in 08. Livingston is also a free agent, so not sure how possible this scenario is.

Frankly, almost everyone on this team (and within the organization) needs to go. Redd, Mo, Gadz, Bobby, Bell, etc..every one of them should be explored in deals and I can't really comprehend how **** stupid our management is to not make 1 single move at the deadline.

In any event, we'll probably find a way to screw up building a team correctly even when we possess 2 top 10 lottery picks.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:31 pm
by skones
Yeah, but my thinking was them trading the rights of Livingston, is that possible?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:38 pm
by msiris
Would any of you take a chance on drafting Thabeet? If we got an extra pick I would.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:40 pm
by trwi7
msiris wrote:Would any of you take a chance on drafting Thabeet? If we got an extra pick I would.


I would.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:32 pm
by jerrod
what kind of value does livingston have do you guys think?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:35 pm
by trwi7
jerrod wrote:what kind of value does livingston have do you guys think?


About as much value as you or me. He still is recovering from that knee injury.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:28 pm
by skones
trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



About as much value as you or me. He still is recovering from that knee injury.


Which is why his rights are a good get. Low risk, high reward.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:49 pm
by midranger
I highly doubt that the Clipps would trade Livingston for next to nothing at this point.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:52 pm
by jerrod
midranger wrote:I highly doubt that the Clipps would trade Livingston for next to nothing at this point.


yeah, they have very little to lose at this point, he'll stay loyal to them and if he's not back by the time his contract is up he'll resign for short term small deal and keep trying

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:12 pm
by skones
If the deal were good enough, I think they'd willingly use him to sweeten the pot. It depends if they believe Mo could lead that team.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:27 pm
by BrewCityBBQ
If I were GM, I would do this without batting an eye.

Pick up another 1st rounder to go with ours and we can really be rebuilding instead of half rebuilding and half trying to win now.