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This is one of the best stories of the NBA. The Rockets have been very hott and been fun watching but now there are approaching something that means allot to the Milwaukee Bucks, if they go and beat Atlanta which they just do they will tie with the Bucks with the second winning stream in NBA history with 20 games.

We are a franchise that doesn't have much and records like that make me feel good. I am just wondering if you guys care or not.


We should be looking at the Rockets and how they rebuild there team when they got Yao they were kind of in the same situation like us they had a promising center in Yao but had a guard who everyone thought was holding him back (Steve Francis) which is our Michael Redd, so the rockets traded him for a real superstar and they started to build around the 2 with a mixture of good nba veterans and young players through the draft.



bring in Van Gundy.



33 1971-72 season


22 Wins 2007-08 season

20 Wins 1970-71 season

Doesn't bother me. Our winning streak was like 15 years before I was born so I have no attachment to that team whatsoever.

If we can trade Michael Redd for a Tracy McGrady talent, then whoever our GM when that trade goes down deserves executive of the year.

I could care less. I just want to know how they are doing it. I mean look at that team on paper. There should be no way they are this good without Yao and can keep this record going this long. To me this seems like one of the biggest flukes ever for a win streak. Maybe I am a ridiculous homer but we always talk about "talent" versus players sticking to their roles and playing like a team and this is just crazy. I think without Yao, the Bucks on paper appear to have a far more talented team. Maybe even with Yao the Bucks look more talented on paper.
Look at this team:
Mcgrady
Yao

and the rest:
Battier
Scola
Alston
Mutombo
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Steve Novak
Mike Harris
Luther head
Justin Williams
Aaron Brooks


How are they doing this? It make no sense. Even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch of games as far as opponents go, knocking off 19 wins in a row seems impossible with that team. They better all go buy a lottery ticket or something.

Amazing what happens when you have one superstar playing great basketball surrounded by defensive-oriented and good shooting role players who all don't mind getting primarily opportunistic offense. That team's confidence is through the roof right now, they don't think anyone can beat them.

bigkurty wrote:I could care less. I just want to know how they are doing it. I mean look at that team on paper. There should be no way they are this good without Yao and can keep this record going this long. To me this seems like one of the biggest flukes ever for a win streak. Maybe I am a ridiculous homer but we always talk about "talent" versus players sticking to their roles and playing like a team and this is just crazy. I think without Yao, the Bucks on paper appear to have a far more talented team. Maybe even with Yao the Bucks look more talented on paper.
Look at this team:
Mcgrady
Yao

and the rest:
Battier
Scola
Alston
Mutombo
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Steve Novak
Mike Harris
Luther head
Justin Williams
Aaron Brooks


How are they doing this? It make no sense. Even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch of games as far as opponents go, knocking off 19 wins in a row seems impossible with that team. They better all go buy a lottery ticket or something.

One thought i had might be coaching to a degree

They had JVG there for a few years and he's fanatical about players on his team defending, it's ingrained in them. Van Gundy is let go because the Rockets offense struggled somewhat under him and in comes Adelman who generally over his career has coached teams that had very productive offenses.

The team is getting used to his system by now and the team scoring went up from around 95ppg each of the first three months to 97.4 in January, 99.8 in February, and are at 109 so far in March.

Wow, the Bucks more talented than the Rockets?
Even without Yao.
McGrady>>>Redd
Scola>>>CV
Landry>>>Yi
Battier>>>Des
Mo and Bogut are better than anything the Rockets have individually but Rafer, Hayes, Mutumbo and the rest of their roles players are miles better than anything the Bucks have.

Now with Yao.
Houston lost a tough series to Utah last year in WC playoffs.
The Bucks can't even make the playoffs in the East.
Talent is a big a part of that.

1000Degreez wrote:Wow, the Bucks more talented than the Rockets?
Even without Yao.
McGrady>>>Redd
Scola>>>CV
Landry>>>Yi
Battier>>>Des

You obviously did not get what I was saying. I said on paper. For example, its not unreasonable to argue for example that CV is more valuable in a trade than Scola and that Yi is more valuable than Landry in a trade. CV and Yi have greater perceived talent and a higher ceiling essentially on the open market IMO compared to the counterparts you compared them too. That is just my opinion anyway. If Scola, Landry, and Battier seem like big time talents to you compared to our guys as is what you are implying by 3 > symbols, go here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=hou

They are just not that good as individual talents is what I am saying but they are super role players who play there role. Believe it or not, at one point in time, Gadz was a super role player for example so don't put too much stock into a year of solid role playing and good stats when T'Mac is creating easy dunks for you.

Now I will be the first to admit stats aren't everything and I have thought Battier would be a great addition to our team for years due to all the little things he does but come on Man, the point is that team is just not that good to be doing what they are doing. So I questioned how they are doing it to see what we can learn. I think El Duderino and Luke23 bring up good points though. We really need a superstar who makes others better and a real coach and role players who actually play their role rather than play selfish basketball and complain when things don't go their way. Also the idea that the players learned to play solid D from Van Gundy and that its something ingrained in them now combined with the fact the Adelman has brought their offense to a new level really seems to make a lot of sense.

bigkurty wrote:I could care less. I just want to know how they are doing it. I mean look at that team on paper. There should be no way they are this good without Yao and can keep this record going this long. To me this seems like one of the biggest flukes ever for a win streak. Maybe I am a ridiculous homer but we always talk about "talent" versus players sticking to their roles and playing like a team and this is just crazy. I think without Yao, the Bucks on paper appear to have a far more talented team. Maybe even with Yao the Bucks look more talented on paper.
Look at this team:
Mcgrady
Yao

and the rest:
Battier
Scola
Alston
Mutombo
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Steve Novak
Mike Harris
Luther head
Justin Williams
Aaron Brooks


How are they doing this? It make no sense. Even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch of games as far as opponents go, knocking off 19 wins in a row seems impossible with that team. They better all go buy a lottery ticket or something.

Just goes to show you McGrady is not the ball hogging, loafer and loser many of you said he was when I begged us to trade Micahael Redd for him mid-season.

He simply makes others better!

80% of you said, hell no we dont want him. He is old, he is always hurt, or what has he won? Well, now look at him.

One of these days you will listen to me. Many of you said no to a rumored deal to bring him here....although I am sure he would have not come and I dont blame him.

But many in here do not know NBA talent and look only on the surface. Even Zach Randolph would have helped and he has subsequently given up on the Knicks like Bogut and a host of other panty anty losers on this team has.

I have never been as disgusted with a team in my whole life. NBA B-ball is horrendous.

NotYoAvgNBAFan wrote:One of these days you will listen to me.

*cough*good coaching*cough*

Once they make the playoffs it will be over for them though.

and i'm a hater, i'd like to see them lose before they tie our record

Just wanted to point out that the Rockets recently picked up Mike Harris, who was with the Bucks in training camp prior to this season. In his first game with the team, he put up a tidy 6pts/7rbs/1ast/1stl in 20 mins of action.

Must be the good coaching/management/ownership (hock-a-loogie). Jerrod, you're a funny dude.

I think the Rockets make it out of the first round this year. It's Mutumbo's last stand.

One thing to consider is not only are they winning, but they're kicking the **** out of their opponents. It's remarkable, and I'd love to see them go all the way.

Too bad they'll get knocked out in the 1st round. :-\

maybe they don't lose for the rest of the year and we can get Yao for Gadz?

When you see this, it makes you wonder how valuable Yao is?

I'd love him on our team, but then again Houston has done really well the past few years when Yao has been out.

Even though statistically they might be close, the difference between Yao and in his prime and Shaq in his prime is a grand canyon.

LUKE23 wrote:Amazing what happens when you have one superstar playing great basketball surrounded by defensive-oriented and good shooting role players who all don't mind getting primarily opportunistic offense.

Yup. Intelligent team composition, good coaching and an elite talent leading the way. They're a fun team to watch and I think you're seeing the influence of Adelman's coaching even more since Yao has been out. The Bobby Jackson trade was a very nice one for them as well.

When the 2008 calendar year started, the Rockets were 15-16. Since then, they have gone 31-4 and are now 46-20.

They have had loses to: Boston, the Jazz, Philly, and the Hornets. The average margin of loss was 5.25 points.

They have wins against: the Spurs, the Hornets (2x), the Magic, Denver, the Warriors, Dallas, and now the Lakers. They're average margin of victory is 12 points.

Overall, their point differential is a positive 9.71 in that stretch.

It took 37 years before a team won at least 20 straight games in the NBA.

They have given up 100 or more points 5 times in 08.