Grade Larry Harris as a Trader, Drafter, FA signer
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:11 pm
I know this is impossible to do with the meddling issues, but listening to all you guys debate LH the last two days made me start to think about Larry's strengths and weaknesses.
If you break it down into the three ways a GM can improve or position a team, I think LH was decent at one (trading), poor to mediocre at another (drafting) and poor at the third (FA signings, including his own players)
Major Trades: ("A-")
Cassell/EJ for Joe Smith/Peeler. I count this as Larry since EG was out the door. Good trade and we dumped salary.
TT/Pryzzy for KVH: Bad trade but it seemed right at the time.
KVH/Mike James dump salary trade at the deadline:
Excellent deal.
Magloire for Desmond/#1: I think this was a great trade. We were just precluded from Larry getting value later with the Boozer/Brewer veto.
TJ for CV:I think the jury is still out here. I'd say Toronto did better but I'll wait until I see what CV brings back this summer.
Joe Smith for Ruben: Good trade, I'd argue Ruben was maybe our best player last year.
Magloire for Blake, Skinner, Ha: Not a great trade, but Skinner helped and Blake would have been a good backup PG under Larry K. but not Stotts.
Blake for Boykins: Bad trade. Blake's played well now for two playoff teams since he left and got a decent FA contract. Boykins career is on life support.
Then we've got the TJ/Mo "Almost assists" here with the blocked deals for Boozer and Marion. GAD can you share others? To me these were the home runs that denied Larry an ability to work out of his other mistakes he made elsewhere.
Drafting: "C-"
1sts TJ, Bogut, Yi (traded the 2006 #1 and the 2004 #1 was traded by Herb):
2nds: Syzmon, Ersan, Markota, Sessions
I don't know what to think here. The second round was a disaster in an era when contributing bench players are coming out of round two. But in reality the second round is irrelevant to the first where you get the stars.
The big one is Bogut over Paul. That one looks terrible now. Yi may pan out wonderfully, but that is also not looking so hot at the moment.
FA signings: "F"
This was the disaster. I for one supported the Simmons move big-time and don't blame all his problems on injuries. So he was terrible.
The Etan Thomas offer sheet....awful.
Desmond and Voskuhl? Not the end of the world but that money could have gone to Billups.
Gadz, Mo, Redd, Bell: All three he should have cut bait on and gotten value before they hit FA.
The little FA signings: Mo (home run), Bell part I (home run), Skinner part I (home run), Damon Jones (home run). But he whiffed on guys like Greer
If you break it down into the three ways a GM can improve or position a team, I think LH was decent at one (trading), poor to mediocre at another (drafting) and poor at the third (FA signings, including his own players)
Major Trades: ("A-")
Cassell/EJ for Joe Smith/Peeler. I count this as Larry since EG was out the door. Good trade and we dumped salary.
TT/Pryzzy for KVH: Bad trade but it seemed right at the time.
KVH/Mike James dump salary trade at the deadline:
Excellent deal.
Magloire for Desmond/#1: I think this was a great trade. We were just precluded from Larry getting value later with the Boozer/Brewer veto.
TJ for CV:I think the jury is still out here. I'd say Toronto did better but I'll wait until I see what CV brings back this summer.
Joe Smith for Ruben: Good trade, I'd argue Ruben was maybe our best player last year.
Magloire for Blake, Skinner, Ha: Not a great trade, but Skinner helped and Blake would have been a good backup PG under Larry K. but not Stotts.
Blake for Boykins: Bad trade. Blake's played well now for two playoff teams since he left and got a decent FA contract. Boykins career is on life support.
Then we've got the TJ/Mo "Almost assists" here with the blocked deals for Boozer and Marion. GAD can you share others? To me these were the home runs that denied Larry an ability to work out of his other mistakes he made elsewhere.
Drafting: "C-"
1sts TJ, Bogut, Yi (traded the 2006 #1 and the 2004 #1 was traded by Herb):
2nds: Syzmon, Ersan, Markota, Sessions
I don't know what to think here. The second round was a disaster in an era when contributing bench players are coming out of round two. But in reality the second round is irrelevant to the first where you get the stars.
The big one is Bogut over Paul. That one looks terrible now. Yi may pan out wonderfully, but that is also not looking so hot at the moment.
FA signings: "F"
This was the disaster. I for one supported the Simmons move big-time and don't blame all his problems on injuries. So he was terrible.
The Etan Thomas offer sheet....awful.
Desmond and Voskuhl? Not the end of the world but that money could have gone to Billups.
Gadz, Mo, Redd, Bell: All three he should have cut bait on and gotten value before they hit FA.
The little FA signings: Mo (home run), Bell part I (home run), Skinner part I (home run), Damon Jones (home run). But he whiffed on guys like Greer