I'm willing to go into next season with Sessions

LUKE23 · Post #1 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:57 am

as starter.

I wouldn't let it prevent me from doing anything else I would have done, but I'm willing to give this guy at least a shot given what he has shown to end this year. His D needs work, but he has an unteachable knack for getting people the ball where they need it to score.

I would still draft Westbrook if he's there and go with Sessions/Westbrook/Bell at PG next year, but I think Sessions has earned at least a try as starter given how well he can create for others on the roster.

We're not going to contend next year anyway, it's time to see what we have with this kid. If we can trade for an upper tier PG, so be it, I just think it's unlikely.

trwi7 · Post #2 » by **trwi7** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:00 am

I'm willing to trade all of our high priced veterans for young players/picks and go completely young. They're going to suck badly but at least it will give us hope for the future and they will be more exciting to watch.

jeremyd236 · Post #3 » by **jeremyd236** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:01 am

trwi7 wrote:I'm willing to trade all of our high priced veterans for young players/picks and go completely young. They're going to suck badly but at least it will give us hope for the future and they will be more exciting to watch.

I agree partially. Whether it be trade for proven veterans or trade for younger picks/potential, we need direction on this team. If Redd is traded, I hope a young potential player is brought in return.

And going the other way, I hope we can trade Mo/CV/draft pick for a player (better than Redd).

midranger · Post #4 » by **midranger** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:11 am

Despite the fact that he is a horrific defender and lost every game he started, I agree. In part because I want to be bottom 3 bad for the potential franchise talent that we're missing now. Also, because I can't stand anyone on this team besides Sessions and that is likely due to him having only been here for 17 games.

LUKE23 · Post #5 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:15 am

midranger wrote:Despite the fact that he is a horrific defender and lost every game he started, I agree. In part because I want to be bottom 3 bad for the potential franchise talent that we're missing now. Also, because I can't stand anyone on this team besides Sessions and that is likely due to him having only been here for 17 games.

None of those reasons for me, although I agree there will be growing pains. I just want a creator as the PG, and he destroys Mo in this area. Defense, he's probably a wash with Mo right now but at least has hope to improve there since he's only played 17 games and is 22 years old, while Mo is what he is on the defensive end.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #6 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:17 am

I want to see Sessions get a majority of the backup minutes at the PG position next season..I fully expect him to struggle with more minutes and playing consistently against some of the top PG's in the league. So I want to see us move Mo and get someone else start in front of him. If we can't get a decent starting type talent for Mo then that's when I would turn to Sessions to take the starting PG job.

LUKE23 · Post #7 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:19 am

carmelbrownqueen wrote:I want to see Sessions get a majority of the backup minutes at the PG position next season..I fully expect him to struggle with more minutes and playing consistently against some of the top PG's in the league. So I want to see us move Mo and get someone else start in front of him. If we can't get a decent starting type talent for Mo then that's when I would turn to Sessions to take the starting PG job.

No chance we will get an upgrade to Mo by trading Mo. Only hope we really have to land a stud PG that will impact next year is if we land Rose, otherwise there will be question marks.

That is why I draft Westbrook, an elite athlete/defender with some PG skills at 7, he's a perfect complement to Sessions.

tyland · Post #8 » by **tyland** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:19 am

I will support Session being the starter next season if two aims are met:

1) He picks up on the defensive end (due to new coach/less minutes etc.)
2) We don't have another more exprienced guard that is better thanks to a trade.

I really like Sessions, but I'm trying to limit expectation on him for next year. Clearly he can play, but I don't want to be disappointed if he can't keep up the high standard he has set so far.

Wouldn't mind getting either Watson or Lowry as our point going forward. But whatever decision Hammond makes I will trust at this stage.

Post #9 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:38 am

I guess I don't care who starts next year. I just want a steady veteran point guard alongside Sessions who can pick up his slack as Ramon will inevitably have his ups and downs throughout the season.

Also, if Ramon is going to be this type of point guard that is constantly getting into the teeth of the defense and looking to set up teammates, we can't have any of those guys on the floor that don't catch or finish well. Everybody, to an extent, has to be competent with the basketball. Paul, Nash, and Williams rack up assists because they don't have to worry about who they're throwing the ball to. Those teams don't have guys like Michael Ruffin on the floor - ever.

Post #10 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:38 am

If you trade for Lowry or Watson, are we now making a lateral move in comparison to Ramon?

Even a week or two ago I would have said no....Lowry or Watson would be the starter. Now I'm not so sure.

Rather than trade assets for Lowry or Watson at this point, I'd rather just try and sign Duhon as a FA to back up Sessions, assuming a trade like Mo for Hinrich is not available.

LUKE23 · Post #11 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:41 am

There is zero point in bringing in a role player PG at this point, ZERO. Here are the options:

1. Start Sessions and see what you have
2. Make a trade in a package to get a PG that is currently better than Mo, using the draft pick if needbe
3. Draft a guy like Westbrook and pair him with Sessions, see what you have

I hope we can get past the mentality of making moves to acquire role players, at every position. This team needs to develop it's own talent and use the pieces it does not want to add other talent.

I have zero desire to add players like Watson, Lowry, Knight, or any other names that might be thrown out there.

xTitan · Post #12 » by **xTitan** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:41 am

midranger wrote:Despite the fact that he is a horrific defender and lost every game he started, I agree. In part because I want to be bottom 3 bad for the potential franchise talent that we're missing now. Also, because I can't stand anyone on this team besides Sessions and that is likely due to him having only been here for 17 games.

Who the hell are you kidding....everyone knows who gets your viagra to kick in.

Post #13 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:41 am

paulpressey25 wrote:If you trade for Lowry or Watson, are we now making a lateral move in comparison to Ramon?

Even a week or two ago I would have said no....Lowry or Watson would be the starter. Now I'm not so sure.

Rather than trade assets for Lowry or Watson at this point, I'd rather just try and sign Duhon as a FA to back up Sessions, assuming a trade like Mo for Hinrich is not available.

Yeah, it's tough to say if the new staff will think Sessions has what it takes to start. I think Duhon would be an excellent fit as an alternate to Sessions (although I'd prefer a better shooter). He'll be inexpensive and he's pretty steady. I know a lot of people think he's crap, but we're not in any position to be spending a lot on a backup point guard. You know what you're getting with Duhon - smart play, defense, and a quality assist/turnover ratio.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #14 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:42 am

LUKE23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No chance we will get an upgrade to Mo by trading Mo. Only hope we really have to land a stud PG that will impact next year is if we land Rose, otherwise there will be question marks.

That is why I draft Westbrook, an elite athlete/defender with some PG skills at 7, he's a perfect complement to Sessions.

"Only hope we really have to land a stud PG that will impact next year is if we land Rose..."

This is my unrealistic hope.

Post #15 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:43 am

LUKE23 wrote:There is zero point in bringing in a role player PG at this point, ZERO. Here are the options:

1. Start Sessions and see what you have
2. Make a trade in a package to get a PG that is currently better than Mo, using the draft pick if needbe
3. Draft a guy like Westbrook and pair him with Sessions, see what you have

I hope we can get past the mentality of making moves to acquire role players, at every position. This team needs to develop it's own talent and use the pieces it does not want to add other talent.

I have zero desire to add players like Watson, Lowry, Knight, or any other names that might be thrown out there.

I really like Westbrook, but I really do think we'll need a steady influence at the position next to Sessions. Westbrook has loads of potential, but I see his play ebbing and flowing a LOT, just as I do with Sessions', who no doubt will be under more pressure, running a much more complex scheme, asked to do more defensively, etc.

Post #16 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:45 am

I could get behind Westbrook but I want a bigger guard if we are going with Sessions. Sessions isn't small but he also isn't a physical guy.

So much depends on what we do with Redd......

europa · Post #17 » by **europa** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:45 am

Rose-Sessions is the dream and I'm not going to stop dreaming until it's officially over.

But I could live with ...

Sessions-Westbrook
Sessions-Augustin
Sessions-Lowry
Sessions-Duhon

Any of those combinations would work for me. I think all of them have the potential to be an upgrade at the position.

tyland · Post #18 » by **tyland** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:45 am

paulpressey25 wrote:If you trade for Lowry or Watson, are we now making a lateral move in comparison to Ramon?

Even a week or two ago I would have said no....Lowry or Watson would be the starter. Now I'm not so sure.

Rather than trade assets for Lowry or Watson at this point, I'd rather just try and sign Duhon as a FA to back up Sessions, assuming a trade like Mo for Hinrich is not available.

Lowry could be a lateral move. I think Watson would be a slight upgrade due to experience and being an average defender (apparently, haven't watched him play in a while but it is always talked up).

Not sure about Duhon. If we can get him cheap, then sure, but I'm a bit concerned about where his head is and how committed he is as a baller.

Hinrich would be nice, a clear upgrade. You could have a 3 guard rotation of Redd/Hinrich/Sessions.

If Hammond thinks Sessions is good to go as the starter, then I'm behind him. I just don't want to look to far into the future and assume everything is going to be peachy just yet. Sessions will play a role for sure, but the extent of that role will be determined by Hammond and the new coach.

LUKE23 · Post #19 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:47 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I could get behind Westbrook but I want a bigger guard if we are going with Sessions. Sessions isn't small but he also isn't a physical guy.

So much depends on what we do with Redd......

Sessions is what, 6-3? Westbrook will test out at 6-3 or 6-4. I think that's plenty of size at the position and on top of it the two are polar opposites in terms of strengths/weaknesses right now.

I would love that combo.

tyland · Post #20 » by **tyland** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:51 am

LUKE23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Sessions is what, 6-3? Westbrook will test out at 6-3 or 6-4. I think that's plenty of size at the position and on top of it the two are polar opposites in terms of strengths/weaknesses right now.

I would love that combo.

Sound's good to me. Is Westbrook coming out though?

With that combo you could still even bring in another point as a backup. A quality vet who can help teach these guys and be there just in case the young guys start to struggle. Armstrong would be perfect.