Trade 1:
Milwaukee trades Michael Redd to Chicago for Larry Hughes and #9 overall.
Trade 2:
Milwaukee trades Mo Williams, Charlie Villanueva, #7 and #9 overall, and an unprotected 2010 first to Miami for the rights to Derrick Rose and Mark Blount.
Draft Taj Gibson in the second round, and resign Ivey to a small deal.
Rose/Sessions/Ivey
Hughes/Bell
Simmons/Mason
Yi/Gibson
Bogut/Blount/Gadz
We are more defensive minded and will look to our bigs for most of our offense, developing them in the process. We also have our future superstar in Rose and although we will probably miss the playoffs again next year, we have huge expiring contracts the following year with Hughes and Simmons, and a top pick to supplement our core. I know the second trade might be a pipe dream but you never know. If Miami wants to win right away they might consider it.
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Offseason plan #1 for me
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MickeyDavis wrote:I like Rose but trading Redd, our pick, Williams, CV AND a 2010 first rounder for him and Hughes?
Don't forget Mark Blount
Yeah its a lot to give up but I would do it for a potential Wade or a potential Jason Kidd. At least with Rose we have a real chance at a superstar. I can't see acquiring one through any trade so we have to draft one.
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I am a little surprised that people aren't willing to try for that superstar that you need to win a championship 90% of the time. I want to see the Bucks win a title eventually and it will not happen without a superstar. If someone can tell me how that will happen without breaking the bank for one I would love to hear it.
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If we could get Chicago to take CV/Redd and give us Hughes/Tyrus Thomas/#9 then remove CV from the deal with Miami, I'd like this deal more. I'd also like it more if we found space to sign a free agent SF, maybe Pietrus. I don't think we can rely on Yi next year to be a major offensive contributor. I hope I'm wrong.
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I believe that you can give up several quasi-stars/talented players/picks for one guy, IF you think he is surefire allstar quality.
The whole NBA is based on a superstar system. You're better off giving up whatever it takes to get a superstar, than to have no superstar at all.
This proposal is a little rich for my blood, I won't deny it. But if Rose is truly a top caliber player as suspected then you do what you have to do.
Really, are any of those guys mentioned even welcome here after this last year anyway?
I'd like to keep the 2010 pick, or one of the picks from this year, Miami's choice. But 2 picks, Mo and Charlie for Derrick Rose? Sold.
The whole NBA is based on a superstar system. You're better off giving up whatever it takes to get a superstar, than to have no superstar at all.
This proposal is a little rich for my blood, I won't deny it. But if Rose is truly a top caliber player as suspected then you do what you have to do.
Really, are any of those guys mentioned even welcome here after this last year anyway?
I'd like to keep the 2010 pick, or one of the picks from this year, Miami's choice. But 2 picks, Mo and Charlie for Derrick Rose? Sold.
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Well we do have the MLE or whatever it is called to work with I believe so Pietrus could be had. I would prefer to sit on it. ML deals typically don't work out especially if someone is signed to the full. I personally just like the defensive makeup of that team and the fact that Bogut will be getting the touches he deserves, and the fact that he knows he will get the f'n ball with Rose and Sessions as his point guards.
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I like the way this guy is thinking with some caveats.
The Redd for Hughes and #9 is a no brainer to me. Hughes for all his faults is "servicable" and his contract is one-year less than Redd and a lot less in money. We shed a TON of salary there that can be used elsewhere. #9 lets you get Westbrook. A good move even if you don't go on to the second part of the trade.
The second part is the tough one. We would give up three #1's and CV and Mo for Rose. I'd give up Mo/CV and only two picks.
Mo and CV suck relatively speaking. Neither will ever be an all-star or come close to it. We can replace them easily. So what do we lose there? For Miami, those two would help them because they've got their star in Wade. All the deal would essentially be is #7 and #9 for Rose. Done in my book. I'd bet Miami wouldn't do it.
The Redd for Hughes and #9 is a no brainer to me. Hughes for all his faults is "servicable" and his contract is one-year less than Redd and a lot less in money. We shed a TON of salary there that can be used elsewhere. #9 lets you get Westbrook. A good move even if you don't go on to the second part of the trade.
The second part is the tough one. We would give up three #1's and CV and Mo for Rose. I'd give up Mo/CV and only two picks.
Mo and CV suck relatively speaking. Neither will ever be an all-star or come close to it. We can replace them easily. So what do we lose there? For Miami, those two would help them because they've got their star in Wade. All the deal would essentially be is #7 and #9 for Rose. Done in my book. I'd bet Miami wouldn't do it.
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I don't see Chicago's motivation for taking on Redd and giving up a draft pick.
They take on a longer contract AND give up a pick?
Don't see it happening
It's the height of stupidity to give up 3 first round picks for Rose, even if he will be good.
If we're giving up 3 first round picks it better be for: Amare, Bosh, etc, or someone who is a proven commodity not for a rookie
They take on a longer contract AND give up a pick?
Don't see it happening
It's the height of stupidity to give up 3 first round picks for Rose, even if he will be good.
If we're giving up 3 first round picks it better be for: Amare, Bosh, etc, or someone who is a proven commodity not for a rookie
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EastSideBucksFan wrote:Don't see it happening
It's the height of stupidity to give up 3 first round picks for Rose, even if he will be good.
I don't see Chicago doing that deal either, given they have Thabo and Gordon already, unless they ditch Gordon. But hey, it was proposed, and I like it.
In regards to the three picks, wouldn't you last year have traded #7 (Brewer) and #9 (Noah?) along with a future #1 for the right to Oden, Durant or Horford?
I sure would have.
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I like the chicago deal, but I also am far from certain they pull the trigger.
the heat trade though has us giving up a little much. If we get back Haslem instead of Blount I'd be all over it though, but the origianl deal would leave us with no assets to help us drop gadzuric so we'd be spending 13 million a year on trashy back up centers.
the heat trade though has us giving up a little much. If we get back Haslem instead of Blount I'd be all over it though, but the origianl deal would leave us with no assets to help us drop gadzuric so we'd be spending 13 million a year on trashy back up centers.