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new offseason plan

Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 11:44 pm
by bucksguy
1 trade: bucks trade: michael redd+ cv

bucks get: baron davis + belinelli

warriors trade: baron davis + belinelli

warriors get: michael redd+ cv

trade 2: bucks trade: yi + mo + danny g + desmond mason

bucks get: elton brand + timmy thomas

clippers trade: elton brand + timmy thomas

clippers get: yi + mo + danny g + desmond mason

trade 3: bucks trade: 7th pick + bobby simmons

bucks get: 5th pick ( and draft oj mayo) + malik rose

knicks trade: 5th pick + malik rose

knicks get: 7th pick + bobby simmons

we sign childress with our MLE
skinner/ lorenzen wright (maybe both of them) and flip murray with our LLE

our new roster:

baron/ sessions/ bell
mayo/ flip/ bell
childress/ thomas/ belinelli
brand/ rose/ thomas/ our second round pick
bogut/ skinner (wright)/ another veteran (booth? voskuhl?)

this is a very athletic line-up. our defense will be much better, and we also have some nice substitutes.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 12:23 am
by EastSideBucksFan
That would be a sick lineup.

I'm not sure I see the Warriors taking Redd for Baron Davis. They would probably want our first to draft a PG if they were interested in moving him.


I'd love to have Brand if we could get him to sign an extension before we give up Yi. But I do hope that Hammond doesn't have any restrictions on moving Yi if a great deal like this comes along.


Very optimistic and aggressive, not bad at all

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 12:43 am
by bucksguy
[quote="EastSideBucksFan"]That would be a sick lineup.

I'm not sure I see the Warriors taking Redd for Baron Davis. They would probably want our first to draft a PG if they were interested in moving him.
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the worriors do not need a new point guard, since they want to resign monta ellis to an extantion. also, I think that cv will be perfect fit for their running team.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 12:49 am
by skones
How in the hell does Bobby Simmons help us move up two spots in the draft while also netting an expiring deal?

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 4:57 am
by Baddy Chuck
skones wrote:How in the hell does Bobby Simmons help us move up two spots in the draft while also netting an expiring deal?

Read my mind.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 7:32 am
by Raptors90102
skones wrote:How in the hell does Bobby Simmons help us move up two spots in the draft while also netting an expiring deal?


+1

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 7:34 am
by midranger
The guy is 22 posts into his realGM career. It'll come.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 7:36 am
by Mags FTW
I never want to see Tim Thomas in a Bucks' uni again.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 9:43 am
by bucksguy
skones wrote:How in the hell does Bobby Simmons help us move up two spots in the draft while also netting an expiring deal?


my goal was to get somehow oj mayo. maybe you can do it differently. if we can't get him what do you think of this bucks- clippers trade:

Bucks Incoming Players:

Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
17.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.2 minutes

Corey Maggette
6-6 SF from Duke
22.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 35.7 minutes

Tim Thomas
6-10 SF / PF from Villanova
12.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.7 apg in 30.8 minutes

Clippers Incoming Players:

Bobby Simmons
6-6 SF from DePaul
7.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.7 minutes

Maurice Williams
6-1 PG from Alabama
17.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 6.3 apg in 36.5 minutes

Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
3.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.5 minutes

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF / SG from Oklahoma State
9.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 28.8 minutes

Yi Jianlian
7-0 PF from China
8.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 24.9 minutes

the 37th pick

our new line-up:
davis
Maggette
childress
brand
bogut

and we also keep our 7th pick.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 9:55 am
by trwi7
bucksguy wrote:what do you think of this bucks- clippers trade:

Bucks Incoming Players:

Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
17.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.2 minutes

Corey Maggette
6-6 SF from Duke
22.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 35.7 minutes

Tim Thomas
6-10 SF / PF from Villanova
12.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.7 apg in 30.8 minutes

Clippers Incoming Players:

Bobby Simmons
6-6 SF from DePaul
7.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.7 minutes

Maurice Williams
6-1 PG from Alabama
17.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 6.3 apg in 36.5 minutes

Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
3.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.5 minutes

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF / SG from Oklahoma State
9.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 28.8 minutes

Yi Jianlian
7-0 PF from China
8.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 24.9 minutes

the 37th pick


I think you're high if you think we can get rid of our two worst contracts, a smallish expiring, a PF who regressed as the year went on, a long term, expensive PG who they probably won't want because this is a rebuilding deal and a 2nd round pick for a premier PF, a good wing player and a bad contract.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 10:01 am
by NeedsMoreCheese
Mags FTW wrote:I never want to see Tim Thomas in a Bucks' uni again.


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Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 10:06 am
by trwi7
Love Thomas' face in this pic. "Why you gotta push off like that, bro?"

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Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 11:08 am
by NotYoAvgNBAFan
Bucksguy,

MASTERFUL! Simply heavenly trade scenario's that have been discussed before, but the players involved were not.

Send this by fax to John Hammond...this can get us to the Eastern Conf finals next year and the second round of the playoffs IMMEDIATELY!

Just a simply superb trade for Baron Davis and Elton Brand to go with Bogut!

Fantastic! :clap:

:nod:

Brand and Bogut would be absolute monsters. I would look to bring over Mickeal Pietrus instead of Belinelli.

Unless Pietrus is a free agent and then move a lottery for Ron Artest and we can come out of the East with a new coach who knows his stuff!

Superb! Now we are talking!

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 1:32 pm
by Chapter29
You work that out bucksguy.

I'll take that line up in a hearbeat.

Good luck.

Posted: Sat May 3, 2008 1:36 pm
by WRau1
I don't like it because there would to many players on our team who's names begin with the letter B.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 5:54 pm
by Johnny Newman
The first trade give us a nice line up. But once the season began and less touches for Bogut cause Davis and Brand and Mayo be hogging the ball. The forum be flaming this deal. Yes Davis is clutch and all. But I want to get away from the shoot first pg's we got and had in Mo and Cassell. I wouldnt mind Brand coming here yet and Meggette. But not blow the team up completely. It would take another 2 years to gel and another coach. lol I believe as Fall arrives we will still have the same roster other then a draft pick brought in or thta pick dealt for a vet. But I see us playing small ball like the old Karl days. I could see Dez and Simmons getting pf time if Yi craps out. Also I see mo at sg and Redd at sf alot. With Sessions running the show.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:11 pm
by TheTrivium
Were not going to make all these trades a more realistic plan, would be.

Mo for Haslem
CV for Francisco Garcia

We see how Redd plays with his new teammates before making a decision on trading him, I still think he can be great piece, with the right fit.

If we have the 3rd pick we draft, OJ Mayo, if we stay at the 7th pick we draft Danillo Gallinari.

Lineup

PG Sessions/Bell
SG Redd/Mason
SF Garcia/Gallinari
PF Yi/Haslem
C Bogut/Haslem


If Redd doesnt work out, and we are below 500 at the trade deadline we dump, Redd for expirings, and tank the rest of the year, to secure a high draft pick.

Redd and Gadz, for Wally, Varejao, and Jones, at the deadline, We draft Ricky Rubio in the draft.

Next years Lineup

PG Rubio/Sessions
SG Szczerbiak/Bell
SF Gallinari/Garcia
PF Jianlian/Haslem
C Bogut/Varejao

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:14 pm
by TheTrivium
Rubio, Gallinari, Yi, Bogut, is an excellent multi-talented core.