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Carl Landry RFA

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 6:59 pm
by htr
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... to_return/

He was extremely impressive in his rookie season and now will be a RFA. He's the type of hard worker and well rounded player that Hammond would certainly love. As much as he states he loves Houston and wants to go back, there is no place like home.

What type of an offer would you make and what would it take to get Houston not to match?

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:03 pm
by Kerb Hohl
Out of curiosity, did did the Badgers just not really pursue him or did they pursue him and he chose Purdue? I guess that would help me gauge his interest in playing back at home. There are plenty of other factors that could have factored into his decision but I am just wondering.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:18 pm
by Bernman
He went to Vincennes JUCO before going to Purdue. Grades were the reason Wisconsin didn't pursue him.

During his predraft workout interview last year he stated that he was a big Bucks' fan growing up and would be thrilled to play for Milwaukee.

But if he's a restricted free agent he doesn't exactly have a choice where he goes. I'd imagine Houston would match any reasonable offer which was made.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:22 pm
by Kerb Hohl
Thanks. I figured he liked it here because I know Marcus does.

Can't really see him coming here at this time though.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:42 pm
by Neapolitan Buck
I love Landry so I would love to see him here. I believe that a part of the MLE could be enough.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:53 pm
by carmelbrownqueen
Landry has played really well for Houston, and I wouldn't mind having him, but I suspect that the Rockets will do what they can to keep him (within reason).

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:00 pm
by Kerb Hohl
A good way to think about it is if the Rockets don't want to pay up to retain him, he probably isn't worth our offer. Or the remote chance that it doesn't work out for their financial big picture.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:17 pm
by Johnny Newman
What is the MLE price these days?

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 10:45 pm
by Licensed to Il
I think that this is an interesting thread/topic for two reasons. The first, is that if the Bucks do go forward and trade Yi (due to agent Dan Fegan's insistance) Houston is one of the most obvious trade partners.

The second reason why I think Landry should be on our radar is that if the Bucks go ahead and try to move Mike Redd, I think Houston would be one of the main teams that was interested.

Nothing more than a gut feeling here, but sometimes there are guys out there that seem like obvious trade targets. And if the Bucks are serious about changing the team and organizational culture, guys like Landry and Battier would be exactly the kind of guys that they should want. Not saying those two exactly... but "Hammond Ball" and "Skiles Ball" places a premium on effort, efficiency, versatility, and (for lack of a better word) "coachability"...

I would consider trading Yi and Bobby for Battier and (a resigned) Landry. Seems like it could work cap wise, and seems like it would make lots of sense for both teams.

Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 11:01 pm
by paulpressey25
I like Landry and know he plays the right way........

But I can't over-value him like this. This guy isn't even close to Haslem yet and may never be.

I know last May/June a bunch of guys were hot on offering Amir Johnson of the Pistons a full MLE offer. Amir didn't do so great this season.

If we are going to trade or blow the MLE on role player types, then let's go for guys who have done something for multi-years like Josh Childress, Haslem or Francisco Garcia.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 12:05 am
by europa
paulpressey25 wrote:If we are going to trade or blow the MLE on role player types, then let's go for guys who have done something for multi-years like Josh Childress, Haslem or Francisco Garcia.


I agree. I like Landry a lot but the Bucks would likely have to overpay to pry him away from Houston and if they're going to invest all or most of their ML on one player I'd rather see them go after Josh Childress instead. If the Bucks weren't able to swing a trade for a SF, I'd have no problems seeing them offer a full ML deal to Childress to see if the Hawks will match it.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 12:11 am
by Bernman
paulpressey25 wrote:I like Landry and know he plays the right way........

But I can't over-value him like this. This guy isn't even close to Haslem yet and may never be.

I know last May/June a bunch of guys were hot on offering Amir Johnson of the Pistons a full MLE offer. Amir didn't do so great this season.

If we are going to trade or blow the MLE on role player types, then let's go for guys who have done something for multi-years like Josh Childress, Haslem or Francisco Garcia.


Really, not even close? If you project Landry's numbers to the same amount of minutes as Haslem, he averages 4.5 points more, 1 rebound, same blocks, and a far superior field goal percentage. He's a more explosive finisher than U-Dip around the goal. He is knocked for his jumper, but he could shoot from mid-range in college, and from the free throw stripe. If he begins to translate that aspect of his game, he could be better than Haslem. He is a few years younger, with significantly less experience.

U-Dip is your boy. I wouldn't be disappointed with him either....but I'm calling a bit of bias here, PP.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 12:28 am
by wireonfire
Rookie Carl Landry will be a restricted free agent, but he said he wants to be back with the Rockets.

"This is where I want to be," he said. "I love Houston. It's not my decision. It's the Rockets' decision. Both sides have to agree. But I love Houston. This is home. I hope to be back next year.

"I think for a rookie I did a great job contributing to this team. It's only going to get better. That's what I'm looking forward to

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 12:40 am
by bstein14
Haslem is a Joe Dumars type player for sure.

Houston will be in the luxury tax level next year, and has a starter in Scola.... So they would basically be paying $12 mil per year to retain Landry for the MLE.

A 3 year deal at the MLE and Hammond could have a great "piece" in the frontcourt next to Bogut.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 1:14 am
by ReasonablySober
bstein14 wrote:Haslem is a Joe Dumars type player for sure.

Houston will be in the luxury tax level next year, and has a starter in Scola.... So they would basically be paying $12 mil per year to retain Landry for the MLE.

A 3 year deal at the MLE and Hammond could have a great "piece" in the frontcourt next to Bogut.


Thanks for the info.

Landry's a fine player. My hope, though, is that Yi turns into a player that needs to be on the court 36 minutes a night.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 1:42 am
by wireonfire
I really doubt Landry will get more than 3mil a year. He has proven he is a starting grade PF.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 3:01 am
by LUKE23
I would take Landry over Haslem without even thinking twice. Landry plays above the rim and is a far superior athlete to Haslem, with similar production on a per minute basis.

Landry >>> Haslem.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 3:35 am
by Chuck Diesel
If you are comparing Landry and Haslem after their rookie seasons a debate might be possible...but there is no way Landry is better than Udonis Haslem right now. It's not even close. Haslem is better than Scola, who was by far the Rockets best big man after Yao went down.

I'd love to land Landry, but if it's not possible I'd really like to take a look at a teammate of his, Mike Harris.Harris is physical and good around the basket.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 3:36 am
by Chuck Diesel
paulpressey25 wrote:I like Landry and know he plays the right way........

But I can't over-value him like this. This guy isn't even close to Haslem yet and may never be.

I know last May/June a bunch of guys were hot on offering Amir Johnson of the Pistons a full MLE offer. Amir didn't do so great this season.

If we are going to trade or blow the MLE on role player types, then let's go for guys who have done something for multi-years like Josh Childress, Haslem or Francisco Garcia.



I was driving the Amir Johnson bandwagon after I watched him tear up the D-league as a 19 year old right out of high school. I strongly believe that he would have been our second best big man this year behind Bogut, and if he were on any other team he would be making some noise. When Rasheed and McDyess are done in a couple of years I think the Pistons will still have a very nice front court with Maxiell, Johnson and Samb.

Posted: Mon May 5, 2008 11:04 am
by howe070523
FYI, Daryl Morey(Houston Rockets GM) has confirmed that he will match whatever contract offered to Landry this offseason.