The next 6 moves if my name is Hammond

[Sigra]

#1
Trade Redd for AK47

#2
Trade Mo and Gadz for AV and expiring contract(s)

#3
Trade Alexander, CV and Mason for Rip Hamilton

#4
Sign free agent Duhon

#5
Re-sign Ersan Iliasova

#6
Sign new contract with Bogut

Starting 5:
Sessions
Rip
RJ
AK47
Bogut

Bench:
Duhon
Bell
Mbah A Moute
Ersan
AV

Do you like that team? Can they score? Can they defend? Are they going to have good chemistry? Are they good fit with Skiles? Other thoughts?

[trwi7]

That bench is terrible.

[xTitan]

pretty soft team...of the six Hammond will do 1 and there is a possibility for a couple others.

[RideEmCowboy24]

i feel like if johnny can somehow get hinrich and haslem in here without giving up redd we'd be set

[RayRayJones]

I love that team. It looks good on paper, the only problem is we've got a weakness there with Sessions as our PG. I think he's a great player, but nowhere near NBA ready caliber. If he could prove he is, then I would love that team. I disagree that the bench is terrible. Aside from our SF spot with the "Prince", I think the bench is OK. The only problem being Varajeao isn't a center and we've got some weaknesses with size then behind Bogut. If we could get a MLE big man, maybe.

The other problem is how that team would mesh. Like I said, if Sessions proves he's a NBA ready point guard, I think he'll be a great distributer for that team. Rip is our pure shooting specialist, RJ is our everything, AK is our defense (and yet still an offensive threat), and Bogut is combo off/def. The nice thing I'd like with that team is we'd have sort of what the Pistons had, 4 offensive threats (Sessions being the only one not) that teams have to watch out for.

I like it, doubt it'll ever happen or come close to it though.

[Sigra]

That bench is terrible.

Well it's bench after all

They all can defend. Not a great scorer there but that's bench really. Boston started their season with Hause and Posey as their bench. Then they added Cassell and Brown but it was still not scoring bench. Before them Spurs won title with even less on bench (Manu is starter considering his minutes). Miami before them? Nothing on bench. Pistons were good for years without any bench. Suns as well. Honestly most good teams have no great scorers on bench. Lakers this year? Vujacic, Walton, Farmer and Turriaf. They were on TV a lot but that bench is nowhere as good as this from my first post. Cavs this year? Pavlovic, Varejao and Smith. Orlando? Nothing. Really twirl what team has great bench?

[Wise1]

2, 4, 5, 6 I'd do.

I think Bogut, AV and RJ would give us solid defense up front. I'd keep Redd for his offensive ability and look to find a point guard to compete with Sessions.

[jbone]

the lineup id like to see next year which could have been more achievable if they would have picked bayless.

hinrich/sessions
bayless(more likely webster)/bell
RJ/alexabder
haslem/thomas
bogut/gadz

redd for hinrich and TT or thabo
mo for haslem
cv for webster

i wouldn't mind packaging CV and Alexander, but i can't think of any SG id want for that value, maybe JRICH type. but just assume CV for webster.

[jerrod]

and of course, my first post didn't work


basically, i still don't see why utah would want redd, especially giving up ak if there's a chance that boozer might leave

and i think the bench is just not good enough, but the rip idea is interesting

[Sigra]

I think that Rip was best and most important player in that Pistons team. He was their best playoff performer too. He is pure SG in many ways. In my opinion the best "off ball" offansive player in NBA. I think he would be great fit with Bogut considering Bogut's passing ability and Rip's ability to run without ball until he free himself. Rip is 30 years old and is in his prime years with maybe 5 more of them considering how much his game looks like Regie Miller's game. I think that Pistons are going in rebuilding direction very soon. Hiring of rookie coach should prove that. I would like to take one of their veterans considering that we are in win now direction. Before Jefferson trade I would aim at Prince. But now my target is Rip Hamilton for all of above and million more reasons.

AK47 IS POWER FORWARD. I am talking about that for years. His talent is wasted at SF. When he plays PF he is quicker than his oponent and he use it greatly to get steals. He is also closer to rim and therefore has more oportunity to block shots. When he plays SF all of that advantages disapear. All of suden he is slow and on the perimetar so he can't help to protect the paint that much and can't get that much steals eather. As a PF he can also streach the floor which becomes pointles when he is SF. His best years where when he played PF and I would die to see that hapen in Milwaukee.

AV complete that frontcourt. He would be reserve for both PF and C with proven record of being great defender. He makes great screens (ask LeBron if you don't trust me) and Rip would love him for that. Our 3A frontcourt (AB, AV, AK) would be best defansive frontcourt in NBA hands down.

I think Sessions will be solid starting PG in this league. But if not then he will be good reserve. In that case Duhon is ready to be starter.

I really like this team.

[Wise1]

You're correct about AK47 Sigra. I just worry about his mental stability. Will his head always be right? With Redd, you're dealing with a "safe" commodity.

IDK, if you ask me tomorrow I may do all 6. Rip and AK are no slouches defensively. We'd hurt in the area of stretching the defense though since none of your proposed starters can consistently hit the 3 from any position around the horn. Rip can shoot them from the corners, but I don't see him shooting them as much or as well from the outside arch.

[John6988]

How bout we give our rookies a chance to develop before we continue to trade them away. Trade Redd/Mo/Gadz keep the rest and sign free agents hopefully in the coming years.. No point in drafting a high prospect than immediatly trading them.

[Sigra]

[Sigra]

You're correct about AK47 Sigra. I just worry about his mental stability. Will his head always be right?

His head was always right when he played PF. He is "sad panda" only when he play SF

With Redd, you're dealing with a "safe" commodity.

Until he try to dunk. Honestly, after RJ trade I find myself thinking to give Redd anyther chance. I was thinking about how terrible coach Krystko was and how we did make playoffs with Redd. I was thinking how he never had such a good scoring teamate at wing. And all of this win now talk. He can score after all. But then sudenly I got picture of him dunking and hurting his leg. I was in the pain when I thought about that. After that I got picture of him dribbling with his head down. Then I got picture of him not doing anything to stop transition. Then I got picture of him not alowing anybody to take #1 role in this team whether by his desire or reputation.

I could live with him here next season. But I would like to trade him very much. Not for expirings though. If we trae Redd I want quality veteran back. PF would be best.

We'd hurt in the area of stretching the defense though since none of your proposed starters can consistently hit the 3 from any position around the horn. Rip can shoot them from the corners, but I don't see him shooting them as much or as well from the outside arch.

That's true. But all this years we cared about that more then we cared about real things. I like how this team could play defense, could play together, could score etc.

[Sigra]

How bout we give our rookies a chance to develop before we continue to trade them away.

Nah. That is for rebuilding teams. We are in win-now direction and we actually use our young talents and "potentials" to get real players and grown people. Hint: See Yi

[Newz]

I like Ramon Sessions, but I think it is absurd to want to go into the season with him as your starting PG.

That line-up would have us starting the worst starting PG in the NBA, being one of the worst rebounding teams in basketball and still being pretty soft... Not to mention we'd have one of the worst 5 benches in the NBA.

Hammond could do much better and our roster as it stands right now would be much better than that team.

[dtownmavs41]

As a mavs fan I would love to see joe alexander in dallas and think josh howard would fit in there, hes a solid defender and has something to prove. With howard and jefferson, the bucks would have very talented 2 and 3 along with size at both positions. The mavs could take back CV as well since the buck are looking to move him and the mavs can put another player or pick to sweeten the deal.

[drew881]

How bout we give our rookies a chance to develop before we continue to trade them away.

Nah. That is for rebuilding teams. We are in win-now direction and we actually use our young talents and "potentials" to get real players and grown people. Hint: See Yi

Thats not true at all. You can go to many championship teams and find rookies who played a large role, let alone playoff teams.

Tayshan Price with Detroit - great performance coming out against 76ers.
Stuckey with Detroit - did a good job in the playoffs when Billups went down.
Sam Cassell winning with the Rockets - made clutch plays down the stretch as a rookie in the NBA finals.
Big Baby playing a serviceable role in the regular season. Didn't get much work in the playoffs, but came in with some decent minutes when Perkins went down.

I could try to scrape together more. It isn't too difficult to do, but I'm pretty confident that Alexander can come in next year and give us 25 minutes off the bench in a solid role.

[Sigra]

Perhaps. But all of that teams had veteran talent so they just added rookie to that. We lack veteran talent and as of right now we are looking for starting PG and starting PF. Joe is our most valuable trade asset IMO (after Bogut offcourse) and he is not going to start at PF or PG. It is logical to think that we will use this young asset to aquire veteran starter. But if Bucks find a way to get starting PG and starting PF with trading only Mo, CV and Mason then I would be very happy to have Joe from bench. Good luck with that attempt though.

[John6988]

Sigra I dont think Yi would be the best example simply because the main reason he was traded was because he didnt want to be here and we needed him to dump another players salary. If he wanted to stay.. he would still be here.. As far as win now.. there is no guarantee that trading for older players mean ur going to win.. that just means you know what you are going to get.. many teams in this league build through the draft and we will have no success unless we continue to draft players and at least give them a chance (ie: Michael Redd and so on).

Maybe people say omg Carlos Boozer draft stealer and other such players.. many players in this league arent like Lebron and need time to develop. So how bout we give them a chance.. not to mention if we keep rookies they have the chance of turning out good. Any player we trade for that has a decent value in this league will most likely have a high price tag.. makes more sense to give the rook a chance and hope it works.. if not after 2 years than trade since its an expiring contract.. makes no sense whatsoever not to give the players a chance.. that isnt how you build a team..

And once again you cant use Yi as an example.. that was a mistake and he didnt want to be here.. so we traded him simply because at this point in time he still had value.. im out