ImageImage

Play off teams in the East?

Moderators: MickeyDavis, paulpressey25

User avatar
paulpressey25
Senior Mod - Bucks
Senior Mod - Bucks
Posts: 60,924
And1: 26,000
Joined: Oct 27, 2002
     

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#21 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:39 pm

power4wardjinx wrote:Don't forget Wally Pipp!!! Josh Boone. .


The other guy I've forgotten is Ryan Anderson, the Net's pick with the 21st selection.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/g ... yerId=3412

I wouldn't say he'll be a better player than Potsie, but he's shown a lot more to date as a rookie. Rod Thorn and Kiki have essentially turned that team around in about 10-months.
In depth discussions here - shorter stuff on Twitter

https://twitter.com/paulpressey25
User avatar
Rockmaninoff
General Manager
Posts: 7,650
And1: 1,667
Joined: Jan 11, 2008
   

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#22 » by Rockmaninoff » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:56 pm

What's so bad about the Net's bench? They've got a double/double guy in Boone. A couple good shooters in Hayes and Anderson. And, a nice combo guard in Keyon Dooling. Not to mention energy defenders Williams and Najera. They lack depth at PG, but they'll find some minimum salaried vet to add.

PP, Ryan Anderson is and probably will be better than Alexander. He is already a better shooter and rebounder. See, he has two things that he is good-great at, and can build off of. Alexander has none.

They have 3 players who are the focus of the offense, and the rest just fill in. See how easy that is? Once they understand how good they could be, they'll start playing defense. Nets make the playoffs.
MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:The fight for civil rights just like for liberty and justice and peace won't be won by man. It will take a god...so lets move on to sports.

Magic Giannison wrote:Giannis is god but even god's cannot save our **** team.
User avatar
paulpressey25
Senior Mod - Bucks
Senior Mod - Bucks
Posts: 60,924
And1: 26,000
Joined: Oct 27, 2002
     

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#23 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:01 pm

Rockmaninoff wrote:PP, Ryan Anderson is and probably will be better than Alexander. He is already a better shooter and rebounder. See, he has two things that he is good-great at, and can build off of. Alexander has none.


I'm waiting and hoping that when Redd and Bogut return, the seas magically part and prosperity begins.

But unfortunately, it would appear that this past draft was one where you really needed to load up on picks. Putting aside Lopez, Augustin is breaking out and hit a huge clutch shot last night. Then you see all these other guys like Anderson who appear like they'll be really nice contributors. We should have made a few trades to acquire picks and/or bought one or two from teams looking to save money.
In depth discussions here - shorter stuff on Twitter

https://twitter.com/paulpressey25
User avatar
Rockmaninoff
General Manager
Posts: 7,650
And1: 1,667
Joined: Jan 11, 2008
   

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#24 » by Rockmaninoff » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:14 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:PP, Ryan Anderson is and probably will be better than Alexander. He is already a better shooter and rebounder. See, he has two things that he is good-great at, and can build off of. Alexander has none.


I'm waiting and hoping that when Redd and Bogut return, the seas magically part and prosperity begins.

But unfortunately, it would appear that this past draft was one where you really needed to load up on picks. Putting aside Lopez, Augustin is breaking out and hit a huge clutch shot last night. Then you see all these other guys like Anderson who appear like they'll be really nice contributors. We should have made a few trades to acquire picks and/or bought one or two from teams looking to save money.


Yes. If that big '2008 Draft Thread' gets pulled up again, you'll see that I was all about that. This was a great draft into even the top of the second round. We could have totally rebuilt our bench by either trading down, or trading a player for picks. Alas.
MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:The fight for civil rights just like for liberty and justice and peace won't be won by man. It will take a god...so lets move on to sports.

Magic Giannison wrote:Giannis is god but even god's cannot save our **** team.
User avatar
paulpressey25
Senior Mod - Bucks
Senior Mod - Bucks
Posts: 60,924
And1: 26,000
Joined: Oct 27, 2002
     

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#25 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:24 pm

Rockmaninoff wrote:Yes. If that big '2008 Draft Thread' gets pulled up again, you'll see that I was all about that. This was a great draft into even the top of the second round. We could have totally rebuilt our bench by either trading down, or trading a player for picks. Alas.


Yes...you and Ty had that wired from the start as it relates to the massive quality even down in the 20's. I can't recall a recent draft where so many guys have been contributors in the first month of the season. I'm growing bitter at the string of "what ifs" that this franchise could have done last summer. LRMAM was one heck of a great pick, but the other pick and trades just aren't looking all that good right now.
In depth discussions here - shorter stuff on Twitter

https://twitter.com/paulpressey25
User avatar
steger_3434
RealGM
Posts: 18,184
And1: 5,447
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
Location: Getting Rowdy in Section 212 with Squad 6
       

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#26 » by steger_3434 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:45 pm

I was laughed at and called a tool for my Potsie/Haislip comparisons. I don't know why more didn't jump onto that bandwagon. Both were marginal college players (JA did have 1 good month that earned him millions), both were highly athletic and strong, and both weren't very good pure basketball players.

Haislips rookie stats: 4.1 ppg, 43% fg, 1.4 rpg, .46 bpg, .54 to/game, 11.3 mpg, 21 years of age
JA's rookie stats: 4.4 ppg, 40% fg, 2.4 rpg, .47 bpg, 1.07 to/game, 14.1 mpg, 21 years of age
yiyiyi wrote:give rockets Redd ,houston give you T-MAC in return .please help rockets!
i dont want see that woman anymore !
Epicurus
RealGM
Posts: 15,487
And1: 867
Joined: Jan 25, 2006

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#27 » by Epicurus » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:50 pm

Pacers are being overlooked in this thread. Having seen about 10 games a piece, I like the Pacers' chances over the Bucks'. I know the Bucks have been largely without Redd, but the Pacers haven't had Dunleavy yet and he was very effective in O'Brien's offense last season.
User avatar
Rockmaninoff
General Manager
Posts: 7,650
And1: 1,667
Joined: Jan 11, 2008
   

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#28 » by Rockmaninoff » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:20 pm

Epicurus wrote:Pacers are being overlooked in this thread. Having seen about 10 games a piece, I like the Pacers' chances over the Bucks'. I know the Bucks have been largely without Redd, but the Pacers haven't had Dunleavy yet and he was very effective in O'Brien's offense last season.


Yeah, I agree with that, and they've been in a lot of close games. Very similar to how the Bucks have played this season. It will be interesting to see what happens when both teams are at full strength. That is, if that ever happens for the Bucks.

As far as the question of this thread, I'd say...

Boston
Cleveland
Orlando
Detroit
Toronto
Atlanta
New Jersey

...with the last spot up for grabs and between...

Philadelphia
Indiana
Milwaukee
MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:The fight for civil rights just like for liberty and justice and peace won't be won by man. It will take a god...so lets move on to sports.

Magic Giannison wrote:Giannis is god but even god's cannot save our **** team.
DutchManDanFan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,959
And1: 2,807
Joined: May 25, 2005
Location: Voorschoten
 

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#29 » by DutchManDanFan » Tue Dec 2, 2008 6:44 am

Boston 17 2
Cleveland 14 3
Orlando 13 5

Atlanta 10 6
Detroit 10 6

New Jersey 9 7
Toronto 8 8
New York 8 8
Miami 9 9
Chicago 8 9

Philadelphia 7 10
Indiana 6 10
Milwaukee 7 12
Charlotte 6 11

Washington 2 12
mbucks22
Banned User
Posts: 6,283
And1: 1
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Location: West Allis, WI

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#30 » by mbucks22 » Tue Dec 2, 2008 7:20 pm

The Nets will not make the playoffs. They are playing better than expected so far but they won't keep it up.

And Lopez=Bogut? I don't think so. A couple of years from now maybe, but not now.
User avatar
Badgerlander
RealGM
Posts: 26,411
And1: 6,976
Joined: Jun 29, 2007
     

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#31 » by Badgerlander » Tue Dec 2, 2008 9:13 pm

Boston
Cleveland
Orlando
Atlanta
Detroit
New Jersey
Miami
Philadelphia

If there are no more trades.

NJ just went 3-1 on a westcoast trip, and I bet they have more All Stars then we do this year.
I think Toronto will drop dramatically if O'Neal misses a lot of time.
Shoot, Move, and Communicate...

Spoiler:

I'm just here for my own amusement,"don't take offense at my innuendo..."


Countless waze, we pass the daze...

A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
mbucks22
Banned User
Posts: 6,283
And1: 1
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Location: West Allis, WI

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#32 » by mbucks22 » Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:15 am

Darn, the Finals bound Nets lost by 20 at home to the (at the time) 2-12 Wizards. Better put the Cristal on ice for just a bit longer.
DutchManDanFan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,959
And1: 2,807
Joined: May 25, 2005
Location: Voorschoten
 

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#33 » by DutchManDanFan » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:33 am

Code: Select all

.              W     L   HM   RD
Boston         22    2   14   10
Cleveland      20    4   13   11
Orlando        18    6   12   12
---------------------------------
Atlanta        14    9    9   14
Detroit        13    9   10   12
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Miami          12   10   11   11
New Jersey     11   11   11   11
Chicago        11   12   11   12
New York       11   12   11   12
Toronto        10   12   10   12
Philadelphia   10   14   13   11
Milwaukee      10   15   10   15
---------------------------------
Indiana         7   16   10   13
Charlotte       7   17   15    9
Washington      4   17   12    9
Sigra
RealGM
Posts: 15,184
And1: 1,233
Joined: Sep 08, 2005
Location: Sarajevo, Bosnia
     

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#34 » by Sigra » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:35 pm

Considering our schedulle so far and considering injuries we had I think it is safe to say that we will make playoffs if healthy from now on.
Nebula1
RealGM
Posts: 27,829
And1: 1,571
Joined: Aug 06, 2005
Location: Underground King
 

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#35 » by Nebula1 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:40 pm

3 road games against Miami, New York and Philly next. I'd like to take at least 2 out of 3 and move up a notch.
User avatar
carmelbrownqueen
RealGM
Posts: 14,578
And1: 42
Joined: Jun 08, 2004
Location: Somewhere thinking independently

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#36 » by carmelbrownqueen » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:52 pm

I'm not convinced that the Nets or Miami have enough to make it to the playoffs..
"Too many people ask for help, and sometimes you have to help yourself." - Jerry Sloan

"We don't accept anything but winning. We don't accept anything but playing hard." - John Hammond
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 72,289
And1: 6,239
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#37 » by LUKE23 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:58 pm

Sigra wrote:Considering our schedulle so far and considering injuries we had I think it is safe to say that we will make playoffs if healthy from now on.


Our rankings in offensive/defensive efficiency say otherwise. We're an average defensive team and a bad offensive team, that does not equal a playoff team. If they play at their current level the rest of the year, they are not a playoff team. They will have to significantly improve.
Sigra
RealGM
Posts: 15,184
And1: 1,233
Joined: Sep 08, 2005
Location: Sarajevo, Bosnia
     

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#38 » by Sigra » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:06 am

LUKE23 wrote: They will have to significantly improve.


And they will with better schedull and if healthy
User avatar
trwi7
RealGM
Posts: 110,860
And1: 26,370
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
Location: Aussie bias
         

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#39 » by trwi7 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:30 am

Hollinger says there's a 40.4% chance we make the playoffs. 1.9% chance of winning the lottery. 0.1% chance of winning the championship.

Mediocrity FTW.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."


I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 72,289
And1: 6,239
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Re: Play off teams in the East? 

Post#40 » by LUKE23 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:35 am

I'd say 40% sounds about right. The 10-15 record is somewhat schedule caused. The concerning thing to me is that our offense has shown zero signs of improvement all year long, and the D has shown a little slippage.

Return to Milwaukee Bucks