All Star Starters and Votes-Ridnour?

energee · Post #1 » by **energee** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:46 am

Starters in the west are
Kobe, CP3, Duncan, Amare, Yao
East is
Wade, AI, LBJ, KG, Howard

Voting is below. Does anyone know how Ridnour received the 5th highest vote for guards in the east (serious question)? Is there some secret constituency somewhere? Oregon or religion organization?
As a comparison, he had around 650,000 more votes than Bogut so it wasn't due to Bucks fans I would guess.

2009 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING
The final results of balloting in the Western Conference for the 2009 NBA All-Star Game in Phoenix.
Forwards
Player Votes
Tim Duncan (SA) 2,578,168
Amare Stoudemire (Pho) 1,460,429
Bruce Bowen (SA) 1,392,398
Ron Artest (Hou) 1,362,565
Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,337,519
Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 1,107,926
Pau Gasol (LAL) 948,301
Shane Battier (Hou) 694,112
LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 497,550
Luis Scola (Hou) 405,851
Josh Howard (Dal) 298,810

Guards
Player Votes
Kobe Bryant (LAL) 2,805,397
Chris Paul (NO) 2,134,798
Tracy McGrady (Hou) 1,678,516
Manu Ginobili (SA) 1,642,350
Tony Parker (SA) 1,084,361
Steve Nash (Pho) 677,211
Jamal Crawford (GS) 665,038
Rafer Alston (Hou) 550,199
Jason Kidd (Dal) 477,792
Brandon Roy (Por) 468,688
Chauncey Billups (Den) 466,073.

Centers
Player Votes
Yao Ming (Hou) 2,532,958
Shaquille ONeal (Pho) 1,850,018
Andrew Bynum (LAL) 549,131
Mehmet Okur (Utah) 437,106
Greg Oden (Por) 359,318
Andris Biedrins (GS) 357,984
Al Jefferson (Minn) 310,643
Tyson Chandler (NO) 242,356
Chris Kaman (LAC) 231,928
Marcus Camby (LAC) 158,491
Nick Collison (OKC) 154,309

2009 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING
The final results of balloting in the Eastern Conference for the 2009 NBA All-Star Game in Phoenix.
Forwards
Player Votes
LeBron James (Clev) 2,940,823
Kevin Garnett (Bos) 2,066,833
Yi Jianlian (NJ) 1,813,829
Paul Pierce (Bos) 1,238,763
Chris Bosh (Tor) 1,101,052
Hedo Turkoglu (Orl) 632,051
Shawn Marion (Mia) 405,573
Danny Granger (Ind) 365,810
Josh Smith (Atl) 321,129
Tayshaun Prince (Det) 274,540
Michael Beasley (Mia) 273,471

Guards
Player Votes
Dwyane Wade (Mia) 2,741,413
Allen Iverson (Det) 1,804,649
Vince Carter (NJ) 1,239,613
Devin Harris (NJ) 1,182,406
Luke Ridnour (Mil) 1,039,902
Ray Allen (Bos) 851,205
Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 635,540
Derrick Rose (Chi) 474,384
Jose Calderon (Tor) 445,584
Joe Johnson (Atl) 420,210
Jameer Nelson (Orl) 354,773

Centers
Player Votes
Dwight Howard (Orl) 3,150,181
Kendrick Perkins (Bos) 621,709
Rasheed Wallace (Det) 402,991
Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 396,119
Andrew Bogut (Mil) 357,997
Jermaine ONeal (Tor) 342,723
Al Horford (Atl) 323,302
Brendan Haywood (Wash) 291,490
Ben Wallace (Clev) 263,862
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cle) 219,697
Emeka Okafor (Char) 212,539

midranger · Post #2 » by **midranger** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:49 am

I saw that. He and Bruce Bowen formed an unholy alliance with the devil or something.

MikeIsGood · Post #3 » by **MikeIsGood** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:52 am

Fan voting is super messed up. I try not to pay any attention to it. It makes almost no sense.

lawrybeard · Post #4 » by **lawrybeard** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:52 am

Lord of the Rings fans

Nebula1 · Post #5 » by **Nebula1** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:53 am

Danny deserves a spot. Same with Devin.

Baddy Chuck · Post #6 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:59 am

Fans agree, Ridnour>Williams

Max Green · Post #7 » by **Max Green** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:59 am

Redd will be voted to the reserves.

paul · Post #8 » by **paul** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:06 am

midranger wrote:I saw that. He and Bruce Bowen formed an unholy alliance with the devil or something.

Kendrick Perkins was the third disciple.

MikeIsGood wrote:Fan voting is super messed up. I try not to pay any attention to it. It makes almost no sense.

+1

Cracks me up that so many fans still haven't seen through Iverson.

MikeIsGood · Post #9 » by **MikeIsGood** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:21 am

I think it's hilarious, to be honest, that Devin isn't starting, that AI is, that Bowen, McGrady, and Yi finished 3rd, etc. etc. etc. Fan voting is just a joke. Are Roy and Billups honestly the 9th and 10th best guards in the West? I find that quite humorous. Fan voting is just...ugh. Go Rafer Alston!!!!!!!

mbucks22 · Post #10 » by **mbucks22** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:32 am

How the hell does GILBERT ARENAS have more votes than Joe Johnson? Is the guy spending his days making those millions voting for himself? Fan voting just lost more credibility.

MikeIsGood · Post #11 » by **MikeIsGood** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:32 am

Did it ever have credibility?

mbucks22 · Post #12 » by **mbucks22** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:34 am

I suppose it did at one time.

trwi7 · Post #13 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:35 am

Craig Counsell and David Eckstein met after the baseball season ended and talked about voting a scrappy and gritty white player into the all-star game. They settled on Luke Ridnour.

It's so obvious. I thought everyone knew.

paul · Post #14 » by **paul** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:37 am

MikeIsGood wrote:Did it ever have credibility?

Cue jerrod to come in and defend the voting process....

AussieBuck · Post #15 » by **AussieBuck** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:11 pm

Jefferson in the 4th>>Ridnour. Ridnour only looks good compared to Redd. He's currently at 35% in the 4th.

paul · Post #16 » by **paul** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:15 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Jefferson in the 4th>>Ridnour. Ridnour only looks good compared to Redd. He's currently at 35% in the 4th.

Then he has the clutchness of Jordan compared with Redd in the 4th currently.

GrandAdmiralDan · Post #17 » by **GrandAdmiralDan** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:25 pm

MouteKicksBoute wrote:Ridnour is the 5th best guard in the East, why doesn't this make sense?

Even IF Ridnour would be the 5th best guard in the East, that doesn't explain this at all.

MouteKicksBoute wrote:He deserves an all-star bid.

I am one of Ridnour's biggest fans here (although I think I now have to relinquish the title of Ridnour's biggest fan to YOU), but let's not get carried away. That's crazy talk :lol:

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #18 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:34 pm

It's not as funny now that Ridnour has been playing pretty well, but early in the season, Luke was just horrible. I wondered if it was one of those message board jokes to vote in the least likely all-star from among all the choices. But if that were the case, how could we not know about it? I remember the Antoine Walker campaign two years ago, and I read about it everywhere. People were voting hundreds of times, and it had no noticeable impact on the standings.

I'm extremely curious about what happened here.

LUKE23 · Post #19 » by **LUKE23** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:02 pm

I'd take these PG's over Ridnour based on play this year in the East:

Calderon
Bibby
Rondo
Nelson
Miller
Harris
Rose
Stuckey

Putting Ridnour at 9th in the East.

jerrod · Post #20 » by **jerrod** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:37 pm

paul wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:Did it ever have credibility?

Cue jerrod to come in and defend the voting process....

i wouldn't have to do it if you guys were able to read correctly.

people vote for who they want to see, regardless of whether or not they happen to be having the best season of anyone in their conference at that position.

that's all there is to it. you don't have to take an oath to only vote for the best players having the best season before they'll hand you a ballot.

now i'm done, go back to your misguided ranting, i'm so annoyed, i almost started a sentence with and