2009 Available Free Agents

smooth 'lil balla · Post #1 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:59 pm

Everyone is clamoring for us to trade RJ. Can someone please indicate what you think we're going to do with the cap space if we trade him? Who can we target? Who can we sign? This includes our own free agents.

LUKE23 · Post #2 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:01 pm

smooth 'lil balla wrote:Everyone is clamoring for us to trade RJ. Can someone please indicate what you think we're going to do with the cap space if we trade him? Who can we target? Who can we sign? This includes our own free agents.

Sessions and CV.

End thread.

aaprigs311 · Post #3 » by **aaprigs311** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:02 pm

smooth 'lil balla wrote:Everyone is clamoring for us to trade RJ. Can someone please indicate what you think we're going to do with the cap space if we trade him? Who can we target? Who can we sign? This includes our own free agents.

Are you kidding?

Post #4 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:13 pm

Getting rid of RJ doesn't get us below the cap for next year. It means we can, if we wish, bring back Sessions and CV without paying the luxury tax.

WEFFPIM · Post #5 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:15 pm

smooth 'lil balla wrote:Everyone is clamoring for us to trade RJ. Can someone please indicate what you think we're going to do with the cap space if we trade him? Who can we target? Who can we sign? This includes our own free agents.

You may want to read, oh, about 90% of the threads created since Inauguration Day if you're confused.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #6 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:15 pm

aaprigs311 wrote:
smooth 'lil balla wrote:Everyone is clamoring for us to trade RJ. Can someone please indicate what you think we're going to do with the cap space if we trade him? Who can we target? Who can we sign? This includes our own free agents.

Are you kidding?

Seriously, is he kidding or not? I can't tell.

Neapolitan Buck · Post #7 » by **Neapolitan Buck** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:00 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
smooth 'lil balla wrote:Everyone is clamoring for us to trade RJ. Can someone please indicate what you think we're going to do with the cap space if we trade him? Who can we target? Who can we sign? This includes our own free agents.

Sessions and CV.

End thread.

+1

Post #8 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:13 pm

He's not kidding. We've had this argument before. I'm stun.

:banghead:

jerrod · Post #9 » by **jerrod** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:16 pm

DrugBust wrote:He's not kidding. We've had this argument before. I'm stun.

no way, there's no way he doesn't know. i don't believe it

blueedwards · Post #10 » by **blueedwards** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:18 pm

That dude better not be drinking my beer. :lol:

smooth 'lil balla · Post #11 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:21 pm

Nope, I didn't know. I didn't know that by trading RJ we essentially free up no cap space, and all we can do is resign our own guys, something we could already do. Sorry I'm not as smart as you guys, but it sure is fun to pile on. What are you, 3rd graders?

trwi7 · Post #12 » by **trwi7** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:30 pm

smooth 'lil balla wrote:I didn't know that by trading RJ we essentially free up no cap space, and all we can do is resign our own guys, something we could already do.

We can't re-sign our own guys if Kohl doesn't want to go into the luxury tax (which he has shown no indication of wanting to do), so no, it isn't something that we could still do with RJ.

LUKE23 · Post #13 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:30 pm

smooth 'lil balla wrote:Nope, I didn't know. I didn't know that by trading RJ we essentially free up no cap space, and all we can do is resign our own guys, something we could already do. Sorry I'm not as smart as you guys, but it sure is fun to pile on. What are you, 3rd graders?

What trading RJ does is it allows us to not go over the luxury tax limit by re-signing both Sessions and CV. If we keep RJ, we're at $64.6M committed next year. If you add first rounder, possibly Ersan, and both Sessions and CV, you're looking at $80M+ easy, which is not feasible. That is $80M committed plus another $6M that Kohl has to throw in for lux tax.

blueedwards · Post #14 » by **blueedwards** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:33 pm

Kohl might go into luxury tax a little bit. Cause Redd's insurance is paying 80% of the tab.

RamonSessions · Post #15 » by **RamonSessions** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:34 pm

This thread could be useful in listing free agents who other teams with cap space might target, instead of Ramon and Charlie.

However, we better find any expiring deal in which Richard like salary is cut from our team in the off season, as resigning the dynamic duo is better than getting one.

smooth 'lil balla · Post #16 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:40 pm

Thanks for those who are civil. I knew we could realistically target any real free agents. That was the point of the thread. IF Kohl's willing to go luxury tax, i think we are best off keeping RJ. I also worry about CV putting up good numbers in a contract year.

Ramon is a keeper, and I think Kohl would pay luxury tax to keep him.

Glad to know how little I'm respected. Time to check out.

Ayt · Post #17 » by **Ayt** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:38 pm

I'm not sure why people jumped all over you. If you don't read the board every day you are going to miss a lot of discussions, and I don't see the harm in you asking this question since you were confused about why people would want to trade RJ for an expiring.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=876463

That thread goes into a lot of what our financial situation looks like.

emunney · Post #18 » by **emunney** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:55 pm

And in case anybody wants to discuss 2009 free agents:

http://www.sportscity.com/nba/2009-nba-free-agents

coolhandluke121 · Post #19 » by **coolhandluke121** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:09 pm

RamonSessions wrote:This thread could be useful in listing free agents who other teams with cap space might target, instead of Ramon and Charlie.

Marion
Millsap*
Boozer
Lee*
Odom
Andre Miller
Ben Gordon
Kidd
Damon Jones**
Bibby
Iverson
Sheed
Artest
Felton*
Nate Robinson*
Warrick*
Turkoglu
Varejao
Marvin Williams*

*Restricted free agent
** :lol:

coolhandluke121 · Post #20 » by **coolhandluke121** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:12 pm

Oops, forgot Ariza. Also didn't list anyone who will likely exercise the player option (Okur for example).