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The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens

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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#141 » by SO_MONEY » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:08 pm

winforlose wrote:
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We don’t want him at his QO price point. As a minimum he would be a nice defensive option/bench depth.


He is done here, got to read the room. We wouldn't take him for the minimum. Moore has his role at minimum.


Eventually. But Moore needs time in the G before he will be ready to play with the big boys. I personally think sign and trade is his best bet. There will be some teams who want an 11th man defensive specialist. Also may be some coach who thinks they can fix his shot. Time will tell.


Okogie sat on the bench, Moore can do that just as well.

No one is going to trade for him.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#142 » by theGreatRC » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:10 pm

Gonna miss Josh, crazy seeing my first post in this thread and how high I was on him.

You have to admit that the first half Okogie was different than anything we've seen after. He was a ball of energy that ignited the team, sort of what Vando does now.

Wish him the best
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#143 » by winforlose » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:11 pm

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winforlose wrote:Eventually. But Moore needs time in the G before he will be ready to play with the big boys. I personally think sign and trade is his best bet. There will be some teams who want an 11th man defensive specialist. Also may be some coach who thinks they can fix his shot. Time will tell.

You realize Finch said Moore is "plug-and-play."

That doesn't sound like someone the team will put into the Iowa Wolves.


I missed that. You guys seem to be finding quotes that I am missing. I assumed based on all the drafting for the future stuff. That and Moore made significant progress every year at Duke. It stood to reason he would be placed in the G to further develop. I am guessing your Finch comment is from Twitter?
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#144 » by Dewey » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:25 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
winforlose wrote:Eventually. But Moore needs time in the G before he will be ready to play with the big boys. I personally think sign and trade is his best bet. There will be some teams who want an 11th man defensive specialist. Also may be some coach who thinks they can fix his shot. Time will tell.

You realize Finch said Moore is "plug-and-play."

That doesn't sound like someone the team will put into the Iowa Wolves.

Ya if Moore is G-League I’d be shocked… we got plenty of players we can move to keep the rookie on the roster. He’s a legit 2-way player with leadership traits is vs alot of other mere chuckers out there.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#145 » by Baseline81 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:28 pm

winforlose wrote:I missed that. You guys seem to be finding quotes that I am missing. I assumed based on all the drafting for the future stuff. That and Moore made significant progress every year at Duke. It stood to reason he would be placed in the G to further develop. I am guessing your Finch comment is from Twitter?

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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#146 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:31 pm

winforlose wrote:
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We still have the bird rights if a sign and trade is needed. I think it was about the QO being to high relative to his value. I think he likes it here and given a reasonable offer might stay. That said, this is a business and for more playing time and more money he will do what is best for him.


We don't want him, he isn't chasing more money he is hoping for a job.


We don’t want him at his QO price point. As a minimum he would be a nice defensive option/bench depth.


Nah. Those end of bench spots should go to players with upside potential.

Okogie is a great kid, but I'd say it's less than 50/50 he's even in the NBA next year. He's a fine defender, but not nearly good enough to make up for his complete lack of offense.

He was a non-factor on the Nigerian national Basketball team. That should tell you he's not an NBA player.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#147 » by LibertyPrime » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:59 pm

He's a flawed player but one who also has real gifts and who has done everything the team asked him to do, even playing PF under Ryan when needed. I don't know what the problem with the shot is; is it a vision thing, a rhythm thing, a confidence thing?

Anyway, I hope they keep him, if for no other reason than you won't see many G-Leaguers being able to do these things.



You keep him on a small, multi-year contract and use him like teams use Boban (that is, mostly in special circumstances), and if he develops a shot, great.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#148 » by MN7725 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:06 pm

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winforlose wrote:
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We don't want him, he isn't chasing more money he is hoping for a job.


We don’t want him at his QO price point. As a minimum he would be a nice defensive option/bench depth.


Nah. Those end of bench spots should go to players with upside potential.

Okogie is a great kid, but I'd say it's less than 50/50 he's even in the NBA next year. He's a fine defender, but not nearly good enough to make up for his complete lack of offense.

He was a non-factor on the Nigerian national Basketball team. That should tell you he's not an NBA player.


that's probably true
the athletic guy that can defend but can't shoot get cycled through quickly

he's not that much different than Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Dwayne Bacon
guys who were given decent playing time but then out of the league
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#149 » by Calinks » Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:10 pm

If only he took off, I could have had a claim to fame as helping to nickname an NBA player. Oh well. Love the guys heart, I wish it would have worked out. He could have been a monster if he has a jumper.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#150 » by Nick K » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:01 am

winforlose wrote:
shrink wrote:This isn’t unexpected news. The team likes Okogie, but they simply couldn’t keep him in the rotation, especially with minutes going to the longer Vando and a slow shooting start for McDaniels. When we add a couple 1st rounders and probably someone in free agency, there just isn’t a spot for Okogie.

This is a minor loss, too. I expected he would get traded at the last deadline, if just for a future 2nd, and we could have sent Josh to a place with minutes to further his career.


We still have the bird rights if a sign and trade is needed. I think it was about the QO being to high relative to his value. I think he likes it here and given a reasonable offer might stay. That said, this is a business and for more playing time and more money he will do what is best for him.



He's a good guy but we've seen enough of Josh. Time to move on. Hopefully he can find some kind of offensive game probably oversees.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#151 » by wolves_89 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:21 am

Unfortunately for Josh, the difference between making $2M/year and $10M/year on his next contract is going to come down to him shooting 27% on mostly wide open 3s instead of 35%.
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Re: The Josh 

Post#152 » by minimus » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:43 am

wolves_89 wrote:Unfortunately for Josh, the difference between making $2M/year and $10M/year on his next contract is going to come down to him shooting 27% on mostly wide open 3s instead of 35%.

Yes and no... Watching GP2 getting minutes in Finals I wonder why Okogie has been so inefficient... GP2 contributes despite being poor shooter.

P.S. Plot twist, Okogie signs with GSW and wins championship.
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Re: The Josh 

Post#153 » by BlacJacMac » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:04 pm

minimus wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Unfortunately for Josh, the difference between making $2M/year and $10M/year on his next contract is going to come down to him shooting 27% on mostly wide open 3s instead of 35%.

Yes and no... Watching GP2 getting minutes in Finals I wonder why Okogie has been so inefficient... GP2 contributes despite being poor shooter.

P.S. Plot twist, Okogie signs with GSW and wins championship.


GP2 is super low usage, but he has shot 62/36/62 for GS in his 2 years there. He has to be defended.
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Re: The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens 

Post#154 » by LibertyPrime » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:28 pm

And so the saga comes to an end. Josh just signed with the Suns on a one-year deal.

Best of luck, Josh.
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