What type of strength do you expect from our front office (3 choices)

minimus · Post #1 » by **minimus** » Tue May 24, 2022 12:10 pm

With Connelly as POBO what type of strength do you expect from our front office?

moss_is_1 · Post #2 » by **moss_is_1** » Tue May 24, 2022 1:33 pm

Drafting should be our biggest strength, Connelly and Gupta are both supposed to be good in the draft, and the Memphis guy good at developing talent.

Gupta is good at contracts, so could see some team friendly deals for Naz/Nowell.

I'd expect Dlo to be looked into hard over the off-season, maybe replaced, or maybe they think he can be our PG. He did have his moments, he just was completely terrible down the stretch and in the playoffs.

NebWolvesFan · Post #3 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Tue May 24, 2022 2:19 pm

I picked small trades, draft steals and find a starting PF. I think with 3 second round picks, it's not that crazy to think one of them will pop. I think Minnesota would have been very aggressive at getting a PF that can rebound whether TC came over or not. The one that I'm most excited about is TC closing deals on smaller trades. I truly believe he could have gotten some compensation for players like Okogie, who Minnesota is now going to lose for nothing.

Post #4 » by **Klomp** » Tue May 24, 2022 6:56 pm

I think he likes to look for value in the draft. He doesn't completely remove guys from the board due to issues. He bought a pick in order to get into the draft to select Bol Bol. That pick didn't work, but I don't expect his philosophy to waver if he's empowered by ownership to be aggressive and take risks he feels are necessary and worthwhile. But at the same time, he usually knows how to balance risk with patience. He'll take the top guy on the board.

“We had him graded out as a lottery pick,” Connelly said. “You got to take risks sometimes to get talent like that. We were surprised pleasantly that he was there … We are pretty fired up to have him.” -Connelly after selecting Malik Beasley at No. 19.

“At some point it becomes a risk-reward ratio,” Connelly said. “We think he’s an elite talent, a guy [that] with no back issues we wouldn’t have the good fortune of drafting. I think you have to take a swing at guys like that.” -Connelly after selecting Michael Porter Jr.

shangrila · Post #5 » by **shangrila** » Tue May 24, 2022 11:15 pm

Makes me wonder who might drop.

I could see Griffin getting squeezed out with some of these guys rising. Same with Johnny Davis.

life_saver · Post #6 » by **life_saver** » Wed May 25, 2022 1:22 am

Lot of important decisions for Connelly to handle this off-season. DLo is the main and now also KAT's extension. He is eligible for that 4 year supermax extension as he made All-NBA..I most likely think they will offer him extension

Devilzsidewalk · Post #7 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed May 25, 2022 1:23 pm

I want to forge a team identity. Like Boston I think of intense defense, Miami is tough guys, Golden State is ball movement and shooting, Memphis is kind of a young version of Miami, Philadelphia is effeminate floppers, etc.

I think we're kinda moving towards a team that's hands all over the passing lanes, causing turnovers, and run and gun. But whatever it is, keep moving in that same direction. It just seems like the best teams have an over-arching philosophy of what traits embody winning basketball, and when they bring in new guys, they tend to represent those traits. I think that's what often separates good orgs from mediocre or bad ones. Miami isn't gonna be desperately scanning the free agent horizon like "omg Kevin Knox, you used to be a lottery pick and we need all the help we can get, so we'll bring you in and hope for the best". They're scouring the ranks looking for guys with a certain mindset and skills, and then all of a sudden you're watching some guy you've never heard of named Max Strus drop 26 on your favorite team.

minimus · Post #8 » by **minimus** » Wed May 25, 2022 2:05 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I want to forge a team identity. Like Boston I think of intense defense, Miami is tough guys, Golden State is ball movement and shooting, Memphis is kind of a young version of Miami, Philadelphia is effeminate floppers, etc.

I think we're kinda moving towards a team that's hands all over the passing lanes, causing turnovers, and run and gun. But whatever it is, keep moving in that same direction. It just seems like the best teams have an over-arching philosophy of what traits embody winning basketball, and when they bring in new guys, they tend to represent those traits. I think that's what often separates good orgs from mediocre or bad ones. Miami isn't gonna be desperately scanning the free agent horizon like "omg Kevin Knox, you used to be a lottery pick and we need all the help we can get, so we'll bring you in and hope for the best". They're scouring the ranks looking for guys with a certain mindset and skills, and then all of a sudden you're watching some guy you've never heard of named Max Strus drop 26 on your favorite team.

Yes, I agree that establishing our identity must be a top priority. I see three components that make this possible:

1) top level 3pt shooters Towns, Edwards, Beasley, DLo - this remains
2) gifted PoA defender - this component kind of remains with Beverley extension, and MCD and Ant development
3) defensive minded PF Vando, MCD - this component needs iimprovement.

I've read recently a lot about Looney. And I honestly believe that we should invest in him. he is low key, high impact player.

https://theathletic.com/3323396/2022/05/22/kevon-looney-playoffs-defense/
https://medium.com/head-fake/the-different-kind-of-wow-of-kevon-looney-7d11121da3e4

shrink · Post #9 » by **shrink** » Wed May 25, 2022 2:27 pm

I don’t know enough about Looney to have an opinion on him, but I have seen GSW fans say that unlike two years ago, Looney can no longer stay in front of his man defensively, FWIW.

Shaka_Zulu · Post #10 » by **Shaka_Zulu** » Wed May 25, 2022 3:05 pm

shrink wrote:I don’t know enough about Looney to have an opinion on him, but I have seen GSW fans say that unlike two years ago, Looney can no longer stay in front of his man defensively, FWIW.

I'm not saying we should get Looney, but why care about others perceptions when we see in this playoff alone him getting switched on and shutting down Doncic 2 games in a row? (This J kidd tactic choked a way a clear lead in game 2).

That's basically hardest 1v1 match for majority of NBA players.

giberish · Post #11 » by **giberish** » Sun May 29, 2022 12:16 am

shrink wrote:I don’t know enough about Looney to have an opinion on him, but I have seen GSW fans say that unlike two years ago, Looney can no longer stay in front of his man defensively, FWIW.

Looney's strengths: Switchability and being able to hang defensively when switched onto star perimeter guys. Rebounding, especially when opposing teams try to go small against GS. Generally high BBIQ.

Looney's weaknesses: Can't effectively defend big/full-sized centers who also have offensive skill (Jokic, Embiid, Jonas V) (this isn't a 'stay in front of his man issue, it's a size/strength issue). Solid mid-range shooter but doesn't even take 3's. Not that explosive/can struggle to finish inside at times.

Neeva · Post #12 » by **Neeva** » Sun May 29, 2022 6:16 am

If Connelly didn’t make draft day threads Denver would have 1-2 championships. Unless he was picking for Utah GM when he traded away Mitchell and Gobert.

minimus · Post #13 » by **minimus** » Sun May 29, 2022 11:02 am

giberish wrote:
shrink wrote:I don’t know enough about Looney to have an opinion on him, but I have seen GSW fans say that unlike two years ago, Looney can no longer stay in front of his man defensively, FWIW.

Looney's strengths: Switchability and being able to hang defensively when switched onto star perimeter guys. Rebounding, especially when opposing teams try to go small against GS. Generally high BBIQ.

Looney's weaknesses: Can't effectively defend big/full-sized centers who also have offensive skill (Jokic, Embiid, Jonas V) (this isn't a 'stay in front of his man issue, it's a size/strength issue). Solid mid-range shooter but doesn't even take 3's. Not that explosive/can struggle to finish inside at times.

I am okay with his weaknesses if he signs with us for 7-8 mil per year

Post #14 » by **Klomp** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:19 pm

Neeva wrote:If Connelly didn’t make draft day threads Denver would have 1-2 championships. Unless he was picking for Utah GM when he traded away Mitchell and Gobert.

He was.

Post #15 » by **Clav** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:26 am

#1 Cater to Towns extension and that he's 1A (and solidify Edwards as his 1B role as initiator and play him as the 1 or the 2)

#2 Find a solution for PG. MN needs a presence on 1 that will help their pretty good team defense. It's why McLaughlin and the team play well when he's on-ball hounding and being a drive and kick plug into any game state kind of guy. Look for a non-offensively needy guard... D Wright. GPII. Bruce Brown. DLo... man just move your feet better.

#3 PF is another priority in the offseason. By all means, more talent needs to be imparted into this position. Ideal - J Grant or J Collins. Tough nut to crack, there's only mostly trade options.

Bonus #4 - Get Lu Dort on the roster / or dedicate to Nowell.... Vanderbilt, McDaniels more PT as athletic mix of 1st and 2nd unit

Addition by Subtraction: Layman - Okogie. Full stop.

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minimus · Post #19 » by **minimus** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:10 pm

I was confused by Barton, Morris trade, but then found out that Hyland is much more than catch and shoot guard. He can pass, he can shoot and with his size he is an ideal guard in modern NBA. Here is the best article about him. Hyland is an underrated move by TC, although Barton and Morris trade might have ordinary Kroenke related reasons, but basketball wise, with Hyland development it makes sense as well.

https://theanalyst.com/2022/07/game-of-bones-why-bones-hyland-is-poised-for-a-big-sophomore-season/

P.S. I hope we can find such players as Hyland with low picks. I have been very intrigued by AJ Lawson

Post #20 » by **Klomp** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:54 pm

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Double local connection here: Worked under Connelly in Denver and played for Finch at Rio Grande Valley

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