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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#61 » by shrink » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:29 am

Note30 wrote:Not to mention also the guy we invested our biggest trade splash maybe ever to.

We are talking about Gobert’s actual play in yesterday’s game. Whether we paid a penny or a billion for him, that shouldn’t affect your view of the events. If it does, then you are letting emotions guide your thinking.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#62 » by TimberKat » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:38 am

Note30 wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
shrink wrote:
As a fan I can't ignore the pretty obvious offensive dysfunction when Gobert is on the floor compared to pretty average backups like Naz and Luka Garza.
The guy is the highest paid, highest profile veteran we have and he deserves this level of scrutiny.



Not to mention also the guy we invested our biggest trade splash maybe ever to.

I looked at the top 4 teams in both conference and don't see any of them use small ball and 5 out as the core offense. The only Championship team does that maybe GSW but they have 3 outliner players in Green, Curry and Thompson. Also KD is oversize for his position. Most successful teams use a mix of post, cuts, other stuff. Putting the contract and picks aside for a second, I feel we don't utilize Gobert enough on our offense. The dysfunction I see is more on our player's inability to find him for dunks and move the ball on in/out sets. We don't need to remove Gobert for Ant's offense, we need Ant to leverage Gobert on picks and passes. Ant also need a mid range game so teams can't clog up the middle. Gobert wasn't blocking Mitchell's offense in Utah.

Gobert didn't have a great game. It's a mix. Should had gotten more free throws. I see a few good pass from JMac and others to him. I think he could had been better on D. At the same time, his D on Tatum and ran back to grab the rebound was great. He is playing more out and helping on 3pt shooter which I had said before is good to see. At the same time, that will mean a couple less rebounds but that is OK.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#63 » by Shaka_Zulu » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:50 am

I havent posted in ages in here , but ffs what was that? I watched sports for 3 decades, and this one of the most blatantly fixed games I seen.


Look at this ****:






Kills any mood I had to see our next game.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#64 » by TimberKat » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:02 am

Shaka_Zulu wrote:I havent posted in ages in here , but ffs what was that? I watched sports for 3 decades, and this one of the most blatantly fixed games I seen.

Kills any mood I had to see our next game.

There is no way as refs in such critical juncture could miss the jump ball call. They are trained to look for early tips on jump balls as that happens all the time with smaller players. The Gobert tech is also extremely questionable.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#65 » by Guest84 » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:58 am

TimberKat wrote:
Note30 wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:

Not to mention also the guy we invested our biggest trade splash maybe ever to.

I looked at the top 4 teams in both conference and don't see any of them use small ball and 5 out as the core offense. The only Championship team does that maybe GSW but they have 3 outliner players in Green, Curry and Thompson. Also KD is oversize for his position. Most successful teams use a mix of post, cuts, other stuff. Putting the contract and picks aside for a second, I feel we don't utilize Gobert enough on our offense. The dysfunction I see is more on our player's inability to find him for dunks and move the ball on in/out sets. We don't need to remove Gobert for Ant's offense, we need Ant to leverage Gobert on picks and passes. Ant also need a mid range game so teams can't clog up the middle. Gobert wasn't blocking Mitchell's offense in Utah.

Gobert didn't have a great game. It's a mix. Should had gotten more free throws. I see a few good pass from JMac and others to him. I think he could had been better on D. At the same time, his D on Tatum and ran back to grab the rebound was great. He is playing more out and helping on 3pt shooter which I had said before is good to see. At the same time, that will mean a couple less rebounds but that is OK.


While I agree, we don’t need to remove Rudy for Ant, I’ve noticed that Ant just explodes off the PnR with Rudy. Moving too fast to throw the lob.

Ant can get to the rim at will, and we want him to attack. In order for him to work with Rudy, he would have to slow down coming off the puck to allow Rudy time to get open. If Ant was getting the calls like he should, I don’t think not involving Rudy would be a problem.

I also think he doesn’t fully trust Rudy…honestly, it’s hard to went you have to throw one specific pads in order for him to catch it.

I would suggest Ant watches some old Harden film on how to manipulate the PnR and throw the lob. By until then, Rudy needs to get his from Kyle, Mike, and Jaden.

I do see the chemistry building though which is a far cry from where it began. Hopefully they keep it going
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#66 » by Note30 » Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:28 am

shrink wrote:
Note30 wrote:Not to mention also the guy we invested our biggest trade splash maybe ever to.

We are talking about Gobert’s actual play in yesterday’s game. Whether we paid a penny or a billion for him, that shouldn’t affect your view of the events. If it does, then you are letting emotions guide your thinking.


Yeah we traded 6 picks and are paying $40M for a guy that had 15 and 6 yesterday.

Of course I'm going to pick at it.

If we traded those 6 picks for Dame, we would have won and he would have had 40.

So yeah I'm going to go back and look at any time he does poorly and tear it apart.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#67 » by shrink » Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:54 am

Note30 wrote:
shrink wrote:
Note30 wrote:Not to mention also the guy we invested our biggest trade splash maybe ever to.

We are talking about Gobert’s actual play in yesterday’s game. Whether we paid a penny or a billion for him, that shouldn’t affect your view of the events. If it does, then you are letting emotions guide your thinking.


Yeah we traded 6 picks and are paying $40M for a guy that had 15 and 6 yesterday.

Of course I'm going to pick at it.

If we traded those 6 picks for Dame, we would have won and he would have had 40.

So yeah I'm going to go back and look at any time he does poorly and tear it apart.

Let reality shape your emotions, don’t let emotions shape your reality.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#68 » by minimus » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:48 pm

Outside of referees I actually liked this game. Honestly I liked all our three last games: BRO, ATL and BOS. We did play well against three different matchups:

- against full five-out in BRO with heavy matchup hunting
- in ATL we played against Quinn Snyder who knows everything about Gobert-centric offense, and Young usually kills us with spread pick-n-roll
- we played well against BOS with Tatum-Brown duo + the best stretch five Horford who has been making 45% of threes this season

Gobert was able to dominated in short stints against small lineups, AND he was not destroyed in matchups.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#69 » by Note30 » Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:01 pm

shrink wrote:
Note30 wrote:
shrink wrote:We are talking about Gobert’s actual play in yesterday’s game. Whether we paid a penny or a billion for him, that shouldn’t affect your view of the events. If it does, then you are letting emotions guide your thinking.


Yeah we traded 6 picks and are paying $40M for a guy that had 15 and 6 yesterday.

Of course I'm going to pick at it.

If we traded those 6 picks for Dame, we would have won and he would have had 40.

So yeah I'm going to go back and look at any time he does poorly and tear it apart.

Let reality shape your emotions, don’t let emotions shape your reality.


Tell that to yourself. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid. It's pretty clear to me and atleast one or two other here that we are screwed.
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Re: Wolves vs Celtics 

Post#70 » by cmoss84 » Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:35 pm

Is someone able to post a video of the jump ball and ejections?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

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