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I wish we had Kris Dunn as our backup pg instead of jmac.
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Neeva wrote:I wish we had Kris Dunn as our backup pg instead of jmac.
What a waste of a wish.
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Calinks wrote:For the last couple of years we have been easy to gameplan against in the 4th. Every team know they can come back against the Timberwolves. Its a serious issue.
Look guys, we're down 15 but remember who we're playing. The Timberwolves. We get em right where we want em.
To the posters ripping the other posters because they are talking negatively - start to demand more of the franchise. An all-in move was made in the Gobert trade and clearly nothing has changed with the loser mentality for this team. No more excuses.
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Grubie024 wrote:Calinks wrote:For the last couple of years we have been easy to gameplan against in the 4th. Every team know they can come back against the Timberwolves. Its a serious issue.
Look guys, we're down 15 but remember who we're playing. The Timberwolves. We get em right where we want em.
To the posters ripping the other posters because they are talking negatively - start to demand more of the franchise. An all-in move was made in the Gobert trade and clearly nothing has changed with the loser mentality for this team. No more excuses.
The loser mentality is still deeply intrenched in this fanbase. Anytime anything goes wrong they want heads to roll and generally put their thumb on the scale of negativity whenever possible (every single decision they make is WRONG and when things work you hear nothing but crickets).
This fanbase doesn't deserve a winner, because they are stuck in the mindset that no matter what, when push comes to shove the team will ALWAYS blow it.
I'm not arguing with what has occurred, but all of the thinking is results oriented and "they have to prove it to me in order for me to believe" makes logical sense. Being a sports fan and logic have nothing to do with each other, when it comes to sports (especially underdogs) it's kind of the job of the fanbase to have faith and believe in a team (even when they don't believe in themselves).
I don't think it's a coincidence that this team has played TERRIBLE at home since February, the energy inside Target Center is nothing but anxiety and if they get off to a slow start, everyone is sitting on their hands until the team makes a big comeback. They've fed off the energy in away arenas, they've been zapped by the perpetual loser vibes that emanate from Minnesota sports fans at Target Center.
Last years team believe in themselves, because Pat Bev wouldn't allow them not to. They don't believe in themselves this year and neither do the people in the stands at their home arena.
Note: Getting loud when things are going well doesn't really mean much, everybody is capable of cheering when things are going right. The fans aren't capable of picking them up when they are down, which is a disadvantage over most other successful teams.
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I will say this...more than Gobert, Jaden, we missed Naz the most yesterday. We could have won yesterday if we had Naz. We were -24 in the 12 minutes KAT was on bench..offense just couldn't do much during those minutes. Naz would have been really handy during those non-KAT minutes
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urinesane wrote:Grubie024 wrote:Calinks wrote:For the last couple of years we have been easy to gameplan against in the 4th. Every team know they can come back against the Timberwolves. Its a serious issue.
Look guys, we're down 15 but remember who we're playing. The Timberwolves. We get em right where we want em.
To the posters ripping the other posters because they are talking negatively - start to demand more of the franchise. An all-in move was made in the Gobert trade and clearly nothing has changed with the loser mentality for this team. No more excuses.
The loser mentality is still deeply intrenched in this fanbase. Anytime anything goes wrong they want heads to roll and generally put their thumb on the scale of negativity whenever possible (every single decision they make is WRONG and when things work you hear nothing but crickets).
This fanbase doesn't deserve a winner, because they are stuck in the mindset that no matter what, when push comes to shove the team will ALWAYS blow it.
I'm not arguing with what has occurred, but all of the thinking is results oriented and "they have to prove it to me in order for me to believe" makes logical sense. Being a sports fan and logic have nothing to do with each other, when it comes to sports (especially underdogs) it's kind of the job of the fanbase to have faith and believe in a team (even when they don't believe in themselves).
I don't think it's a coincidence that this team has played TERRIBLE at home since February, the energy inside Target Center is nothing but anxiety and if they get off to a slow start, everyone is sitting on their hands until the team makes a big comeback. They've fed off the energy in away arenas, they've been zapped by the perpetual loser vibes that emanate from Minnesota sports fans at Target Center.
Last years team believe in themselves, because Pat Bev wouldn't allow them not to. They don't believe in themselves this year and neither do the people in the stands at their home arena.
Note: Getting loud when things are going well doesn't really mean much, everybody is capable of cheering when things are going right. The fans aren't capable of picking them up when they are down, which is a disadvantage over most other successful teams.
I think you are dead on about nearly all of this. That said, I think the Timberwolves organization has let fans down so much, that this point, they have to be the ones to uplift the fanbase. Target Center fans do suck, they are expecting the worse all the time, that said, the team can fix that by turning things around and giving people something to believe in.
When luck shuts the door skill comes in through the window.
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life_saver wrote:I will say this...more than Gobert, Jaden, we missed Naz the most yesterday. We could have won yesterday if we had Naz. We were -24 in the 12 minutes KAT was on bench..offense just couldn't do much during those minutes. Naz would have been really handy during those non-KAT minutes
Considering Gobert is significantly better than Naz, I think we missed Gobert more than Naz.
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urinesane wrote:Grubie024 wrote:Calinks wrote:For the last couple of years we have been easy to gameplan against in the 4th. Every team know they can come back against the Timberwolves. Its a serious issue.
Look guys, we're down 15 but remember who we're playing. The Timberwolves. We get em right where we want em.
To the posters ripping the other posters because they are talking negatively - start to demand more of the franchise. An all-in move was made in the Gobert trade and clearly nothing has changed with the loser mentality for this team. No more excuses.
The loser mentality is still deeply intrenched in this fanbase. Anytime anything goes wrong they want heads to roll and generally put their thumb on the scale of negativity whenever possible (every single decision they make is WRONG and when things work you hear nothing but crickets).
This fanbase doesn't deserve a winner, because they are stuck in the mindset that no matter what, when push comes to shove the team will ALWAYS blow it.
I'm not arguing with what has occurred, but all of the thinking is results oriented and "they have to prove it to me in order for me to believe" makes logical sense. Being a sports fan and logic have nothing to do with each other, when it comes to sports (especially underdogs) it's kind of the job of the fanbase to have faith and believe in a team (even when they don't believe in themselves).
I don't think it's a coincidence that this team has played TERRIBLE at home since February, the energy inside Target Center is nothing but anxiety and if they get off to a slow start, everyone is sitting on their hands until the team makes a big comeback. They've fed off the energy in away arenas, they've been zapped by the perpetual loser vibes that emanate from Minnesota sports fans at Target Center.
Last years team believe in themselves, because Pat Bev wouldn't allow them not to. They don't believe in themselves this year and neither do the people in the stands at their home arena.
Note: Getting loud when things are going well doesn't really mean much, everybody is capable of cheering when things are going right. The fans aren't capable of picking them up when they are down, which is a disadvantage over most other successful teams.
I don't think you can say this fanbase is a bunch of losers considering we are supporting the worse franchise in the NBA. The only loser mentality would be why do we still care? We should go adopt a winner. I am sure there will be a lot more cheers if there is a better product on the floor. This franchise haven't earn a free pass yet. We are not watching sitcom taping where we have laugh when someone holds up a sign. This is supposed to be a professional team, not my son's school team. Check out the other fan bases. I think we are actually fairly nice.
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Calinks wrote:urinesane wrote:Grubie024 wrote:Look guys, we're down 15 but remember who we're playing. The Timberwolves. We get em right where we want em.
To the posters ripping the other posters because they are talking negatively - start to demand more of the franchise. An all-in move was made in the Gobert trade and clearly nothing has changed with the loser mentality for this team. No more excuses.
The loser mentality is still deeply intrenched in this fanbase. Anytime anything goes wrong they want heads to roll and generally put their thumb on the scale of negativity whenever possible (every single decision they make is WRONG and when things work you hear nothing but crickets).
This fanbase doesn't deserve a winner, because they are stuck in the mindset that no matter what, when push comes to shove the team will ALWAYS blow it.
I'm not arguing with what has occurred, but all of the thinking is results oriented and "they have to prove it to me in order for me to believe" makes logical sense. Being a sports fan and logic have nothing to do with each other, when it comes to sports (especially underdogs) it's kind of the job of the fanbase to have faith and believe in a team (even when they don't believe in themselves).
I don't think it's a coincidence that this team has played TERRIBLE at home since February, the energy inside Target Center is nothing but anxiety and if they get off to a slow start, everyone is sitting on their hands until the team makes a big comeback. They've fed off the energy in away arenas, they've been zapped by the perpetual loser vibes that emanate from Minnesota sports fans at Target Center.
Last years team believe in themselves, because Pat Bev wouldn't allow them not to. They don't believe in themselves this year and neither do the people in the stands at their home arena.
Note: Getting loud when things are going well doesn't really mean much, everybody is capable of cheering when things are going right. The fans aren't capable of picking them up when they are down, which is a disadvantage over most other successful teams.
I think you are dead on about nearly all of this. That said, I think the Timberwolves organization has let fans down so much, that this point, they have to be the ones to uplift the fanbase. Target Center fans do suck, they are expecting the worse all the time, that said, the team can fix that by turning things around and giving people something to believe in.
Yes, and I agree. The issue is, it's sort of a chicken or the egg situation right now. Without someone like Pat Bev to bring that energy, it really does need to come from the fans. Not for the franchise (they can f off), but for the players themselves (and their own personal enjoyment/sanity). This team isn't at the point where they can be consistent and NEED that extra boost from the fans to help them believe in themselves.
I know, they get paid millions they should this that and the other... but the reality is that the energy of the fans CAN be a massive factor. The entire season there's been super high expectations from game 1, and rightfully so since they took such a big swing with the Gobert trade. The issue is the underlying anxiety that has come with it in the fanbase. The fans in the arena are ready to turn on this team at a moments notice, and we can talk about whether or not that is warranted (and I won't argue against it if you think it is), but what is important is that the fans SHOULD be a positive for this team and all season they haven't been (attendance seems like it's been decent, but the vibe has been trash).
Again, I understand that to many people the team has to prove it and until then they deserve what they get, but that will almost 100% lead to a bad outcome. The players, staff, front office are all accountable, but the fans can't have it both ways. You either support the team or you don't, not saying they have to be rah-rah everything is great when things aren't going well, but if you pay money to show up to the game, why not try to be a factor?
The Wolves need their fans MOST when the chips are down, but everyone is crossed armed daydreaming about firing Finch and Connely rather than doing THEIR job, which is to lift the team up when they are down and ride that wave (so that everyone wins).
Please don't take this as me completely blaming the fans for the ineptitudes shown this season, that's not what I am trying to argue. The fans are responsible for their role though and this season, just like this team, they've been incredibly underwhelming. Their energy is the only thing they control and EVERYONE from the players, to the staff, to the front office, to the FANS (yes the fans are part of it too) need to take accountability for their part in this season.
This team/franchise has failed the fans AND the fans have failed this team at Target Center this year. Just like with the players/coaches, showing up is not enough (if you are a REAL fan).
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Colbinii wrote:life_saver wrote:I will say this...more than Gobert, Jaden, we missed Naz the most yesterday. We could have won yesterday if we had Naz. We were -24 in the 12 minutes KAT was on bench..offense just couldn't do much during those minutes. Naz would have been really handy during those non-KAT minutes
Considering Gobert is significantly better than Naz, I think we missed Gobert more than Naz.
I don't.
I will absolutely agree that Rudy is the better player, but we needed Naz's offense more than Rudy's defense. Naz's ability to break down a defense and get his own shot was exactly what we needed when things went cold.
That ~7 minute draught killed us. If Naz plays part of that time, he likely scores a couple baskets and we're off until Sunday.
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Looks like a lot of ppl got to see the wolves falter...
"Tuesday night's play-in game between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Los Angeles Lakers averaged 3.47 million viewers on TNT.
The viewership stands as the second largest in play-in game history, only trailing the Lakers' game against the Warriors from two years ago. It was also the second most-watched game of the season on cable, trailing the Lakers-Warriors game from opening night."
Doesn't help the national/global image of the team smh.
"Tuesday night's play-in game between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Los Angeles Lakers averaged 3.47 million viewers on TNT.
The viewership stands as the second largest in play-in game history, only trailing the Lakers' game against the Warriors from two years ago. It was also the second most-watched game of the season on cable, trailing the Lakers-Warriors game from opening night."
Doesn't help the national/global image of the team smh.
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Guest84 wrote:Looks like a lot of ppl got to see the wolves falter...
"Tuesday night's play-in game between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Los Angeles Lakers averaged 3.47 million viewers on TNT.
The viewership stands as the second largest in play-in game history, only trailing the Lakers' game against the Warriors from two years ago. It was also the second most-watched game of the season on cable, trailing the Lakers-Warriors game from opening night."
Doesn't help the national/global image of the team smh.
Sure they blew the ending but if you look at it differently, the Wolves minus Gobert and Jaden along with a likely hurt Ant were the better team in a matchup against a healthy Lakers team. That’s encouraging at least!
Rest in peace Mamba. There'll never be another Kobe.
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I feel like the people that bag on Towns are going to ignore the first three quarters, and only remember the exhausted KAT at the end.
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shrink wrote:I feel like the people that bag on Towns are going to ignore the first three quarters, and only remember the exhausted KAT at the end.
Of course. But I with Towns, a lot of the frustration has built up over his whole career. Mostly because everyone sees how talented he is but for whatever reason, he just can't correct the issues plaguing his game (fouls mostly). You would think after being in the league this long, it would've been corrected by better technique at the bare minimum.
Again, I think it's a double edge sword with him because as history has shown us, players who are supposed to be franchise changing here go on to be better elsewhere. KG, Wiggins, etc and the fear is Towns will do the same instead of doing it here. While he helps the team a ton he also hurts the team almost equally. It can be tough for fans to deal with that.
If you get rid of, who replaces him? If you keep him, you'll more than likely continue with the same cycle of "yes yes yes, no no no" with his game. Especially in big moments. Can the franchise be trusted to build around him and Ant?? Jury has been out since the team came into existence.
I personally would love to see us win with Towns but GM get paid to make/not make the tough choices.
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Guest84 wrote:shrink wrote:I feel like the people that bag on Towns are going to ignore the first three quarters, and only remember the exhausted KAT at the end.
Of course. But I with Towns, a lot of the frustration has built up over his whole career. Mostly because everyone sees how talented he is but for whatever reason, he just can't correct the issues plaguing his game (fouls mostly). You would think after being in the league this long, it would've been corrected by better technique at the bare minimum.
Again, I think it's a double edge sword with him because as history has shown us, players who are supposed to be franchise changing here go on to be better elsewhere. KG, Wiggins, etc and the fear is Towns will do the same instead of doing it here. While he helps the team a ton he also hurts the team almost equally. It can be tough for fans to deal with that.
If you get rid of, who replaces him? If you keep him, you'll more than likely continue with the same cycle of "yes yes yes, no no no" with his game. Especially in big moments. Can the franchise be trusted to build around him and Ant?? Jury has been out since the team came into existence.
I personally would love to see us win with Towns but GM get paid to make/not make the tough choices.
People feel disappointed by Towns because Giannis, Embiid, Jokic all took the next step to mvp level super stars, and Kat has not.
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