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How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment?

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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#41 » by Krapinsky » Wed May 24, 2023 4:35 am

wolves_89 wrote:I'd be extremely happy to see the Wolves bring back what I consider their top 8 in Conley, Ant, McDaniels, Towns, Gobert, NAW, Anderson, and Reid. The only roster tinkering I'd look at would be around finding a way to turn the Prince/McLaughlin/Knight salary into a competent backup PG.


I think Prince is a solid glue guy and a good locker room presence for this team. I hope we try to keep him in the mix one more year.

We definitely need a better back up point guard and I'd add someone to provide some scoring punch off the bench.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#42 » by wolves_89 » Wed May 24, 2023 4:25 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:I'd be extremely happy to see the Wolves bring back what I consider their top 8 in Conley, Ant, McDaniels, Towns, Gobert, NAW, Anderson, and Reid. The only roster tinkering I'd look at would be around finding a way to turn the Prince/McLaughlin/Knight salary into a competent backup PG.


I think Prince is a solid glue guy and a good locker room presence for this team. I hope we try to keep him in the mix one more year.

We definitely need a better back up point guard and I'd add someone to provide some scoring punch off the bench.


Prince is a useful player, but if the Wolves keep NAW/Reid and want to stay under the luxury tax line his salary likely has to go to make any additional moves.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

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wolves_89 wrote:I'd be extremely happy to see the Wolves bring back what I consider their top 8 in Conley, Ant, McDaniels, Towns, Gobert, NAW, Anderson, and Reid. The only roster tinkering I'd look at would be around finding a way to turn the Prince/McLaughlin/Knight salary into a competent backup PG.


I think Prince is a solid glue guy and a good locker room presence for this team. I hope we try to keep him in the mix one more year.

We definitely need a better back up point guard and I'd add someone to provide some scoring punch off the bench.


Prince is a useful player, but if the Wolves keep NAW/Reid and want to stay under the luxury tax line his salary likely has to go to make any additional moves.

I think we should move on from Prince. He had flashes of brilliance but never consistent. Someone like Watanabe would cost less and provide the same productivity
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#46 » by Biff Cooper » Fri Jun 9, 2023 8:29 pm

You've gotta run it back this year at least.

Currently $18M under lux with 4 open roster spots. Maybe waive Prince to get up to $25.5M under lux with 5 open roster spots. Re-signing Naz and NAW might use up somewhere around $20M for this season leaving us $5.5M for 3 guys. Sign 2 of Spagnolo, Garza and our 2nd round draft pick to a cheap deal. Should leave us $3-4M to sign another free agent. Maybe someone like Dennis Smith, Cory Joseph, or possibly even Nowell. Find a few decent 2-way players and see what happens.

If 2023-24 ends up epically good, you then hope that we'll jump into the luxury tax to pay Ant, McDaniels, Slo-Mo and Conley.

If 2023-24 ends up not being any better than 22-23, then you need to get rid of either Towns or Gobert next offseason to make room for the new core.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#47 » by Neeva » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:06 am

Trade deadline!
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#48 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:19 pm

There is no experiment so this thread is 100% Stoopid just like the spelling of expirment.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#49 » by Note30 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:45 pm

I would say the end of this season
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#50 » by Note30 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:48 pm

Neeva wrote:Trade deadline!


I get this from a salary perspective, but unfortunately if we do that we won't be able to evaluate a full playoff series. Although if we are failing to make the playoff (5th seed and above) easily by the trade deadline then yes, this makes sense. (barring injuries, unless it's Towns)
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#51 » by Norseman79 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:52 pm

By the end of training camp if it isn't working or looking good I make the move.
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Post#52 » by Note30 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:59 pm

Norseman79 wrote:By the end of training camp if it isn't working or looking good I make the move.



Why not just do it now then? I don't understand the difference training camp would make, didn't they already go through this last training camp?
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#53 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:03 pm

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Norseman79 wrote:By the end of training camp if it isn't working or looking good I make the move.



Why not just do it now then? I don't understand the difference training camp would make, didn't they already go through this last training camp?

Despite missing KAT for 52 games we still had a winning team. Let's see how well this team can do with a full season of health, but it is starting to look like KAT might never stay healthy after starting his career as an ironman.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#54 » by Norseman79 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:25 pm

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Norseman79 wrote:By the end of training camp if it isn't working or looking good I make the move.



Why not just do it now then? I don't understand the difference training camp would make, didn't they already go through this last training camp?


My only reason for that is if things are clicking and looking much better than last year during camp I would wait longer. If it's still clunky and not successful during camp then I make the move. The more tape we put out there that shows it doesn't work, the stronger the chance that we get less in a trade. If you get a great offer now I take it all day
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#55 » by Krapinsky » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:39 pm

With Towns posing for GQ and wanting to be a fashion model with his wife and Rudy once again playing in the summer rather than prioritizing being healthy for an incredibly important make-up season, I'm about ready to move off both of these guys sooner rather than later.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#56 » by urinesane » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:52 pm

Give them until at least All-Star break. It should be clear where the experiment is trending by that point.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#57 » by TimberKat » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:16 pm

I don't know why we are calling this "experiment" anyway. Who cares if we want to call it a two center or two pwf lineup. It's like: What is a center, Who is a pfw. Can they work? I don't know. He is the PG.

Connelly and Finch clearly said multiple times that it will take time and it will work. Meaning they could be an effective team. From the small sample, looks like it will. I would give it the entire season. It seems Ant's the one that needs to learn how to navigate with the pair.

I am not going into all those reasons why it could work again. Maybe Connelly does intended to trade Towns at some point for other reasons. Until then, we can win with both of the on the team.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#58 » by urinesane » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:42 pm

TimberKat wrote:I don't know why we are calling this "experiment" anyway. Who cares if we want to call it a two center or two pwf lineup. It's like: What is a center, Who is a pfw. Can they work? I don't know. He is the PG.

Connelly and Finch clearly said multiple times that it will take time and it will work. Meaning they could be an effective team. From the small sample, looks like it will. I would give it the entire season. It seems Ant's the one that needs to learn how to navigate with the pair.

I am not going into all those reasons why it could work again. Maybe Connelly does intended to trade Towns at some point for other reasons. Until then, we can win with both of the on the team.


"Experiment" is just for those that sh*t on it right away, because maybe an analogy attached to science could get them to stop trashing everything before giving it time (which is doubtful).

Also, it's mainly because when you buck the current trend, you sometimes need to massage the perception, so that those that lack vision in the media can have something to write about. I think it's a great idea and for one was excited that the Wolves finally understood that small market teams can't chase trends, they will always have less resources to pull it off than bigger market teams.

The only way to get new trends (i.e. how small ball became a thing) is to try something different and be successful at it. Whatever you wanna call it, even if it doesn't end up working out, I still think it's a worthy attempt and the right kind of logic for long term success in this market.
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Re: How long should the Wolves give the Gobert/Towns expirment? 

Post#59 » by KGdaBom » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:59 pm

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TimberKat wrote:I don't know why we are calling this "experiment" anyway. Who cares if we want to call it a two center or two pwf lineup. It's like: What is a center, Who is a pfw. Can they work? I don't know. He is the PG.

Connelly and Finch clearly said multiple times that it will take time and it will work. Meaning they could be an effective team. From the small sample, looks like it will. I would give it the entire season. It seems Ant's the one that needs to learn how to navigate with the pair.

I am not going into all those reasons why it could work again. Maybe Connelly does intended to trade Towns at some point for other reasons. Until then, we can win with both of the on the team.


"Experiment" is just for those that sh*t on it right away, because maybe an analogy attached to science could get them to stop trashing everything before giving it time (which is doubtful).

Also, it's mainly because when you buck the current trend, you sometimes need to massage the perception, so that those that lack vision in the media can have something to write about. I think it's a great idea and for one was excited that the Wolves finally understood that small market teams can't chase trends, they will always have less resources to pull it off than bigger market teams.

The only way to get new trends (i.e. how small ball became a thing) is to try something different and be successful at it. Whatever you wanna call it, even if it doesn't end up working out, I still think it's a worthy attempt and the right kind of logic for long term success in this market.

Brilliant analysis. :D

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