The future of Target Center

[northernSoul]

Yeah I was trying to think of locations in that close proximity, but I'm no expert on the Minneapolis real estate situation. Another I wondered about is the farmer's market area nearby, since that was under consideration when United FC was building.

Farmers Market could definitely be in play. The city is rebranding that area as the Root District and sees it as an extension of the hugely successful North Loop. I can see the city giving the Wolves a very favorable deal to help develop that area.
https://finance-commerce.com/2022/12/minneapolis-root-district-seeks-net-zero-future/

[Nick K]

1. Keep it out of downtown. Find a nice big tract in the suburbs where you can build parking and hotels.

2. Make the acoustics work so concerts actually sound decent. Target Center is a horrible place to hear a concert.

3. I highly doubt they will have the dough to privately finance. They will come crawling to the taxpayers like they always do.
Unless you have an entire ecosystem that you own feeding off of it with hotels, restaurants, shopping, and steady year round use (would have to be THE place for concerts), would make no sense. And even then, it's a colossal undertaking.

They made a huge mistake when they moved all the pro sports venues out of Bloomington and into the city 40 years ago.
The parking and traffic issues alone are enough to discourage the casual fan from going to more than a game or 2 a year.

Then you look at the Wild in StPaul and you have a far different story. A highly successful one at that.

[shrink]

Has anyone been to Allianz Field?

How’s that experience? Do you consider it as suburban as Bloomington?

[m2002brian]

1. Keep it out of downtown. Find a nice big tract in the suburbs where you can build parking and hotels.

2. Make the acoustics work so concerts actually sound decent. Target Center is a horrible place to hear a concert.

3. I highly doubt they will have the dough to privately finance. They will come crawling to the taxpayers like they always do.
Unless you have an entire ecosystem that you own feeding off of it with hotels, restaurants, shopping, and steady year round use (would have to be THE place for concerts), would make no sense. And even then, it's a colossal undertaking.

They made a huge mistake when they moved all the pro sports venues out of Bloomington and into the city 40 years ago.
The parking and traffic issues alone are enough to discourage the casual fan from going to more than a game or 2 a year.

Then you look at the Wild in StPaul and you have a far different story. A highly successful one at that.

You make a good point. Although, I would say, the arena in St. Paul is (and St. Paul Downtown in general) is much more family friendly. 7th street (Cassette's area) dinning, and the Science Museum nearby. The vibe is way better. It just feels cleaner and significantly safer.

[Nick K]

The MOA area would probably be one of the easiest areas to build, because ALL of the needed infrastructure is already in place. Parking, hotels, public transportation, airport, and an empty lot to boot!

Man, going back to Met stadium again? I could go buy some furniture after the game is over.

Ha!

I have great memories of the Twins and Vikings at the old Met. Froze my ass off there for the Vikes.

I really miss the Met Center. What a beautiful ice sheet that was.

[shrink]

The MOA area would probably be one of the easiest areas to build, because ALL of the needed infrastructure is already in place. Parking, hotels, public transportation, airport, and an empty lot to boot!

Man, going back to Met stadium again? I could go buy some furniture after the game is over.

Instead of “Light the Beam,” after each win we could “Buy the Credenza!”

[Nick K]

1. Keep it out of downtown. Find a nice big tract in the suburbs where you can build parking and hotels.

2. Make the acoustics work so concerts actually sound decent. Target Center is a horrible place to hear a concert.

3. I highly doubt they will have the dough to privately finance. They will come crawling to the taxpayers like they always do.
Unless you have an entire ecosystem that you own feeding off of it with hotels, restaurants, shopping, and steady year round use (would have to be THE place for concerts), would make no sense. And even then, it's a colossal undertaking.

They made a huge mistake when they moved all the pro sports venues out of Bloomington and into the city 40 years ago.
The parking and traffic issues alone are enough to discourage the casual fan from going to more than a game or 2 a year.

Then you look at the Wild in StPaul and you have a far different story. A highly successful one at that.

You make a good point. Although, I would say, the arena in St. Paul is (and St. Paul Downtown in general) is much more family friendly. 7th street (Cassette's area) dinning, and the Science Museum nearby. The vibe is way better. It just feels cleaner and significantly safer.

That's such an important point.

I don't understand the farmers market downtown idea. The idea is to get out of the toxic downtown area.

[m2002brian]

This just happened in June.

https://www.startribune.com/bloomington-expo-2027-port-authority-mall-of-america-development/600284975/