thinktank wrote:Colbinii wrote:thinktank wrote:
That is categorically false. Quite a few rookies are positive players in their first year. Last year, for example:
Wemby
Holmgren
Lively
Brandon Miller
Podz
Jacquez Jr
Cam Whitmore
Cason Wallace
Amen Thompson
GG Jackson
That's 10 players, or 33% of the first round (might be a second rounder in there but you can also look at it shorter or longer than first round--first round is just an arbitrary guage), who could've contributed positively on our team last year. You can throw metrics at it, but they'd have been playing important minutes for us if we had any of these guys.
It happens every year and second year players contribute even more, as one would assume.
Trayce Jackson-Davis (23 year-old rookie)
I would have GG and Brandon Miller as clearly negative players in terms of impacting winning.
There’s more guys who contribute than my list.
A rookie not being able to impact a tanking team’s winning does not mean that rookie wouldn’t contribute to a winning team.
If Dilly turns out to be good, or if the Wolves were lucky enough to land guys like GG or B Miller (TSJ?), the Wolves would be MOST FORTUNATE to have them, even in their rookie years.
Sure, but the question presented was "Did Summer League guarantee to you that all three are NBA-level rotation players?"
So, when we focus on the question, and the meat of the question is "NBA-Level rotation players", we should be able to peel back the layers of the question and understand Shrink is saying "Contribute to winning in Season 1".
I would give TSJ a good chance on contributing in a net-positive aspect this year--say 70%.
I would give Dillingham a not-so-good chance on contributing in a net-positive aspect this year--say 30%.
I would give Miller a not-so-good chance on contributing in a net-positive aspect this year--say 30%.
I think Dilly will have a lot of learning to do and his age and inexperience will show in a net-negative on-court impact but will be vital for his growth as an NBA player for years to come.
