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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#201 » by Loaf_of_bread » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:10 am

younggunsmn wrote:KAT had 32 points on 12 (yes 12) FGA, 20 rebounds and 6 assists.
Gobert had 3 points and 4 rebounds on 1 (yes 1) FGA and was 1/4 from the line.
We've seen games like this from KAT before. We all like to forget that and just remember the bad playoff games.
Julius Randle spent the whole game going 1 on 5 per usual.

TC brought Gobert in here to put his mark on the franchise, with IMHO the idea of trading away KAT from the beginning.

Skill and offensive talent matter way more in this league than anything else and TC bet his entire legacy on a guy who can't shoot an 8 foot jump shot. After building that legacy on lucking into maybe the most skilled big man to ever play the game when his european scouts found Jokic in the 2nd round. It boggles the mind.

The talent downgrade in that trade is just ridiculously massive.
We are going to be fighting just to get into the playoffs for the rest of Ant's time here now.
It's time for TC to go.

On the other hand I'm really happy for KAT.
He's got a coach who understands what he does well (score and rebound) and has fully unleashed him after 2 years of being asked to sacrifice his game and move out of the paint to accomodate a guy with ZERO offensive skill.

Thibs was a terrible GM but always a great coach. And he adapts his system to his players. Unlike FInch.
But in Finch's defense he had his GM make a massive trade that forced a guy on him that permanently screws up everything he wants to do on the offensive end of the floor.
TWICE.


Tc is fine. If you want to be a paper champion, great.

Finch needs to go asap though.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#202 » by Note30 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:25 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:KAT had 32 points on 12 (yes 12) FGA, 20 rebounds and 6 assists.
Gobert had 3 points and 4 rebounds on 1 (yes 1) FGA and was 1/4 from the line.
We've seen games like this from KAT before. We all like to forget that and just remember the bad playoff games.
Julius Randle spent the whole game going 1 on 5 per usual.

TC brought Gobert in here to put his mark on the franchise, with IMHO the idea of trading away KAT from the beginning.

Skill and offensive talent matter way more in this league than anything else and TC bet his entire legacy on a guy who can't shoot an 8 foot jump shot. After building that legacy on lucking into maybe the most skilled big man to ever play the game when his european scouts found Jokic in the 2nd round. It boggles the mind.

The talent downgrade in that trade is just ridiculously massive.
We are going to be fighting just to get into the playoffs for the rest of Ant's time here now.
It's time for TC to go.

On the other hand I'm really happy for KAT.
He's got a coach who understands what he does well (score and rebound) and has fully unleashed him after 2 years of being asked to sacrifice his game and move out of the paint to accomodate a guy with ZERO offensive skill.

Thibs was a terrible GM but always a great coach. And he adapts his system to his players. Unlike FInch.
But in Finch's defense he had his GM make a massive trade that forced a guy on him that permanently screws up everything he wants to do on the offensive end of the floor.
TWICE.


Tc is fine. If you want to be a paper champion, great.

Finch needs to go asap though.


You're on crack if you think the Knicks don't have a chance to win it all.

We definitely don't have a shot in hell at the moment.

TC may go down as a top 5 worst GM for the Wolves. Hard to take that spot from Kahn and others though.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#203 » by Neeva » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:31 am

Towns will be towns in the playoffs get **** real!
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#204 » by Note30 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:46 am

Neeva wrote:Towns will be towns in the playoffs get **** real!


Second best player on the team? Yeah I expect so.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#205 » by MN7725 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:49 am

Domejandro wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Given that Anthony Edwards has thrown multiple games this season with his horrible hero-ball, I would strongly suggest to him that a lot of the problems are self-inflicted.

Dude is a black hole, the lack of offensively flow is as (if not more) attributable to him than it is Julius Randle.


hero ball happens more when a player doesn't trust his teammates

thats the point

i'm just curious if the Wolves will accommodate ANT in either lineup or roster

He must have really not trusted KAT, because the Anthony Edwards hero ball woes have been a problem his entire career.

Being honest, I kind of just think that this is the level of facilitator that he is, for better and for worse.


for sure, it was pretty crazy how little ANT would look for KAT

I don't think ANT has the "feel" for the game, the ability to manipulate the defense, that the true elite have

but on the flip side, ANT has performed in the playoffs about as well as anyone, so you have to live with some things in the regular season

KAT, as a counterpoint, for all his efficiency, couldn't really deliver when it matters (playoffs) consistently

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