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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#61 » by winforlose » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:14 am

OKC just buried us from deep. 19 made 3s and shooting well over 60% in the 4th.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#62 » by wolves_89 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:18 am

The Thunder ridicoulous 3pt shooting in the 4th won the game. Wolves need to figure out how to fix the terrible starts and awful clutch time finishes of way too many games.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#63 » by Calinks » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:19 am

We badly need Julius and Donte to find a way to fit in when they get back, we need more juice. Clark is amazing.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#64 » by younggunsmn » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:23 am

I hope Clark is OK after that hard fall.
Head injuries are nothing to mess with let him get healthy.

It's nice we tried something different and tried to double team on SGA tonight and it worked for stretches but was bad without Clark in the game. Poor closeouts led to the 6 straight made 3's for OKC that won the game for them.
When we were able to force them into mid range jumpers the defense looked better.
Hartenstein as an offensive rebounder and pocket passer gives them a different dimension this year.

Gonna be rough going back to the super congested offense once Rudy and Randle get healthy.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#65 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:25 am

You can’t win a game when your 3 best players shoot 28% at 3, when your star player make costly TO at clutch tîme…. Doing the same thing ( mistakes) again and again and expect a different outcome is just crazy. Plus the fact that coaching is really strange sometimes….gonna be tough to stay at 7-8 range. GSW lakers Dallas are better than us right now. Tomorrow hope they sit SGA then we may have a chance..
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#66 » by younggunsmn » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:30 am

We were overmatched against a completely healthy OKC tonight.

Just couldnt overcome the super small margin for error we had.

Great effort and energy from the supporting cast tonight, too many turnovers and bad shots and poor composure from our star player. Without Clark on the floor just not enough juice from the defense although they fought hard with the huge size mismatch we had.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#67 » by shrink » Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:07 am

We scored 123 on the road at OKC, a team that leads the NBA in DRtg by a wide margin at 104.8. And lost.

Granted they shot three pointers well, but anyone who believes our team can afford to trade away Rudy Gobert’s defense and rebounding is crazy.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#68 » by winforlose » Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:22 am

shrink wrote:We scored 123 on the road at OKC, a team that leads the NBA in DRtg by a wide margin at 104.8. And lost.

Granted they shot three pointers well, but anyone who believes our team can afford to trade away Rudy Gobert’s defense and rebounding is crazy.


We were at home. This game came down to a failed defensive scheme by Finch. We tried putting two on the ball and blitzing SGA the way they blitz Ant. The problem was OKC is loaded with shooters and are begging teams to try that. They hit 6 of 7 3s on us in a 3 or 4 minute span in the 4th. They hit 19 of 35 from deep when they average 14 makes a game. Other things hurt like poor efficiency from Ant and Jaden, Clark getting hurt, TSJ disappearing in the 2nd half, Dilly having a miserable first half, Naz missing some key 3s in the 4th, ect… But we gave up so many wide open shots and had way to many poor rotations leading to low degree of difficulty shots by OKC. We have to find a better way to contain SGA. Zone has been an option in the past.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#69 » by Worm Guts » Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:22 am

Clark causes problems for SGA, I kind of knew we were in trouble when he went down.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#70 » by winforlose » Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:24 am

younggunsmn wrote:We were overmatched against a completely healthy OKC tonight.

Just couldnt overcome the super small margin for error we had.

Great effort and energy from the supporting cast tonight, too many turnovers and bad shots and poor composure from our star player. Without Clark on the floor just not enough juice from the defense although they fought hard with the huge size mismatch we had.


Bingo!!!! We lost too many small battles, lost Clark, had too many unforced errors, and too many guys just have rough nights (Ant and Jaden both shot fairly inefficiently.) Just not enough things went right and the margin was too small for allow the things that went wrong.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#71 » by winforlose » Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:27 am

Worm Guts wrote:Clark causes problems for SGA, I kind of knew we were in trouble when he went down.


He was also 6 of 6 and hit two nice 3s. The only shot he missed is the shot he got fouled on by IHart with no whistle, and got hurt on the play. Clark had 4 steals (though Jaden deserves credit for one as he knocked it away from Chet and Clark picked it up before Chet.) Losing Clark when already down that much talent hurt.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#72 » by TimberKat » Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:27 am

I didn't watch the game but 5-19 from 3s between Ant and JMcD is not going to win games. Losing Clark doesn't help either. Ant is putting up points in a very inefficient rate lately.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#73 » by Shaka_Zulu » Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:31 pm

We are down several good players playing 2nd best team in the league full strength shooting lights out. Loss was expected, big kudos to NAW and especially Clark showing out (he genuinely looked like a SGA stopper besides robotic efficiency offensively). But it was still frustrating for same reason as most close games:

You know Ant is a huge mindlessly predictable dweeb, when I see him coming on 4th with 6.40 left, and my instant thought was, oh yeah here goes that ball rotation and good shot selection that got us the lead with a hot streaking NAW. And yep, he instantly **** us with his boneheaded decision making and shot selection, turn overs, hero ball stepbacks, quickly changed a 7pts lead to 6 pts down.


When will these coaches ever let hold him accountable?
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#74 » by Guest84 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:13 pm

shrink wrote:We scored 123 on the road at OKC, a team that leads the NBA in DRtg by a wide margin at 104.8. And lost.

Granted they shot three pointers well, but anyone who believes our team can afford to trade away Rudy Gobert’s defense and rebounding is crazy.


Depends on the return. Rudy isn’t untouchable
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#75 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:35 am

Shaka_Zulu wrote:We are down several good players playing 2nd best team in the league full strength shooting lights out. Loss was expected, big kudos to NAW and especially Clark showing out (he genuinely looked like a SGA stopper besides robotic efficiency offensively). But it was still frustrating for same reason as most close games:

You know Ant is a huge mindlessly predictable dweeb, when I see him coming on 4th with 6.40 left, and my instant thought was, oh yeah here goes that ball rotation and good shot selection that got us the lead with a hot streaking NAW. And yep, he instantly **** us with his boneheaded decision making and shot selection, turn overs, hero ball stepbacks, quickly changed a 7pts lead to 6 pts down.


When will these coaches ever let hold him accountable?


Answer quite simple for me : NEVER !
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#76 » by TimberKat » Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:07 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:We are down several good players playing 2nd best team in the league full strength shooting lights out. Loss was expected, big kudos to NAW and especially Clark showing out (he genuinely looked like a SGA stopper besides robotic efficiency offensively). But it was still frustrating for same reason as most close games:

You know Ant is a huge mindlessly predictable dweeb, when I see him coming on 4th with 6.40 left, and my instant thought was, oh yeah here goes that ball rotation and good shot selection that got us the lead with a hot streaking NAW. And yep, he instantly **** us with his boneheaded decision making and shot selection, turn overs, hero ball stepbacks, quickly changed a 7pts lead to 6 pts down.


When will these coaches ever let hold him accountable?


Answer quite simple for me : NEVER !

One more reason you can't count on a single star. Need another guy to counter balance. Remember when Pipen was the only star on Bulls? He didn't get the last shot and he refused to enter the game.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#77 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:19 am

TimberKat wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:We are down several good players playing 2nd best team in the league full strength shooting lights out. Loss was expected, big kudos to NAW and especially Clark showing out (he genuinely looked like a SGA stopper besides robotic efficiency offensively). But it was still frustrating for same reason as most close games:

You know Ant is a huge mindlessly predictable dweeb, when I see him coming on 4th with 6.40 left, and my instant thought was, oh yeah here goes that ball rotation and good shot selection that got us the lead with a hot streaking NAW. And yep, he instantly **** us with his boneheaded decision making and shot selection, turn overs, hero ball stepbacks, quickly changed a 7pts lead to 6 pts down.


When will these coaches ever let hold him accountable?


Answer quite simple for me : NEVER !

One more reason you can't count on a single star. Need another guy to counter balance. Remember when Pipen was the only star on Bulls? He didn't get the last shot and he refused to enter the game.


Yes remember this very well as Kukoc was my player ! I totally agree. ANT is great but his IQ too low to be the only leader in this team.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#78 » by Shaka_Zulu » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:50 pm

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:We are down several good players playing 2nd best team in the league full strength shooting lights out. Loss was expected, big kudos to NAW and especially Clark showing out (he genuinely looked like a SGA stopper besides robotic efficiency offensively). But it was still frustrating for same reason as most close games:

You know Ant is a huge mindlessly predictable dweeb, when I see him coming on 4th with 6.40 left, and my instant thought was, oh yeah here goes that ball rotation and good shot selection that got us the lead with a hot streaking NAW. And yep, he instantly **** us with his boneheaded decision making and shot selection, turn overs, hero ball stepbacks, quickly changed a 7pts lead to 6 pts down.


When will these coaches ever let hold him accountable?


Answer quite simple for me : NEVER !



It only took 1 day, and Finch finally held him accountable for the game last night :D Sat his ass so long that we made the comeback with the hot shooting guys.
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#79 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:11 am

Shaka_Zulu wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:We are down several good players playing 2nd best team in the league full strength shooting lights out. Loss was expected, big kudos to NAW and especially Clark showing out (he genuinely looked like a SGA stopper besides robotic efficiency offensively). But it was still frustrating for same reason as most close games:

You know Ant is a huge mindlessly predictable dweeb, when I see him coming on 4th with 6.40 left, and my instant thought was, oh yeah here goes that ball rotation and good shot selection that got us the lead with a hot streaking NAW. And yep, he instantly **** us with his boneheaded decision making and shot selection, turn overs, hero ball stepbacks, quickly changed a 7pts lead to 6 pts down.


When will these coaches ever let hold him accountable?


Answer quite simple for me : NEVER !



It only took 1 day, and Finch finally held him accountable for the game last night :D Sat his ass so long that we made the comeback with the hot shooting guys.


Actually it took 56 games before finch did it :).
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Re: 58: MN v OKC 

Post#80 » by TimberKat » Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:56 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:[/b]

Answer quite simple for me : NEVER !



It only took 1 day, and Finch finally held him accountable for the game last night :D Sat his ass so long that we made the comeback with the hot shooting guys.


Actually it took 56 games before finch did it :).

I finally watched the second half of game 59. Around the 4:00 min mark, Wolves was down 12 and Ant shot a terrible 3 and followed be a turnover. I am so glad Finch bench him and was the perfect game to do it. He was starting to go selfish mode and shoot us out of the game. I hope he learned to pass the ball better when the double team comes. One game or 56 games, I am just glad Finch did it and we won.

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