New Head Coach Thread

[BlacJacMac]

Second underline, if the Wolves never win a title with Edwards, we'll look back on this time and think what if. Because you don't often get a talent as good as Edwards, arguably our best in franchise history (either him or Garnett).

I don’t know, when KG was at his best he was clearly in the top 2-3 players in the league. Edwards is great but he’s also still the 2nd tier of the league. Jokic, Giannis, SGA are all clearly a tier above him. He still hasn’t reached his prime but he’s not yet a guy who automatically gets a team in the championship discussion.

People are desperate for a title and IMO are overrating ANT. He's great. Definitely a top 10 player, but KG was the best player in the league for a couple seasons. Got one MVP and robbed of another.

And at 23, KG was 1st team All NBA, 1st team All Defense and 2nd to Shaq for MVP.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

[BlacJacMac]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

So fire the coach every year you don’t win the title?

[Klomp]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

I don't think there is enough nuance in that.

Did I want to win a title? Hell yeah! But I also believe that getting there is about more than just "fire Finch" or "fire Connelly" or "trade Randle" or "bench Rudy". That's too simplistic of a way to look at franchise construction.

[Worm Guts]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

You should always look for ways to get better, but the championship or bust mentality only makes sense as a motivator for people involved. As fans, it doesn’t make any sense. You should be trying to enjoy the game. If you only enjoy championships, you’re going to be miserable most of the time, and for what? As a fan, your work ethic is irrelevant.

Beyond that, realistically there are levels to success. No reason pretend that losing in the finals is the same as missing the playoffs.

[m2002brian]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

You should always look for ways to get better, but the championship or bust mentality only makes sense as a motivator for people involved. As fans, it doesn’t make any sense. You should be trying to enjoy the game. If you only enjoy championships, you’re going to be miserable most of the time, and for what? As a fan, your work ethic is irrelevant.

Beyond that, realistically there are levels to success. No reason pretend that losing in the finals is the same as missing the playoffs.

Sometimes I wonder how much winning a championship would change us as a fanbase. If that change would be actually be a positive change.

[TimberKat]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

You should always look for ways to get better, but the championship or bust mentality only makes sense as a motivator for people involved. As fans, it doesn’t make any sense. You should be trying to enjoy the game. If you only enjoy championships, you’re going to be miserable most of the time, and for what? As a fan, your work ethic is irrelevant.

Beyond that, realistically there are levels to success. No reason pretend that losing in the finals is the same as missing the playoffs.

Sometimes I wonder how much winning a championship would change us as a fanbase. If that change would be actually be a positive change.

How can it not be a positive one? We haven't had any "championships appearance" since Twins in the 90s. I don't mind finishing 15th most of the time but you want to be first once a while and you should always try. Winning at least one will be so memorable and make you feel good for a long time. Just ask the Cavs fans and DEN fans.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

You should always look for ways to get better, but the championship or bust mentality only makes sense as a motivator for people involved. As fans, it doesn’t make any sense. You should be trying to enjoy the game. If you only enjoy championships, you’re going to be miserable most of the time, and for what? As a fan, your work ethic is irrelevant.

Beyond that, realistically there are levels to success. No reason pretend that losing in the finals is the same as missing the playoffs.

We were close this year.. and getting close makes the fanbase/myself hungry.

I understand your sense of reality, and maybe I enjoyed following this team more when it was based upon the HOPE of rookie development.. which this team has drafted so many poor rookies.

It's certainly going to be another uphill battle to even get back to the WCF, and we may not see it anytime soon..

[Battletrigger]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

Sorry, I disagree. I have my own life and values millionaires sports like they are, entertainment. My accomplishments are the same if the Wolves wins or not.

[Battletrigger]

Second underline, if the Wolves never win a title with Edwards, we'll look back on this time and think what if. Because you don't often get a talent as good as Edwards, arguably our best in franchise history (either him or Garnett).

I don’t know, when KG was at his best he was clearly in the top 2-3 players in the league. Edwards is great but he’s also still the 2nd tier of the league. Jokic, Giannis, SGA are all clearly a tier above him. He still hasn’t reached his prime but he’s not yet a guy who automatically gets a team in the championship discussion.

I was going to say something similar.

KG's prime years were 20 years ago, so a lot of people didn't see it or tend to forget how good it was.

In the other hand, the USA media are interested in promoting the USA next superstar that will exceed the European ones, but let's be honest, Ant is not a top 5 player and it's not the kind of players that can make whatever he wants with the game.

We were lucky with him, but he is not the next Jordan or the Star Killer...

[Loaf_of_bread]

I propose trading the 17th pick to Miami for spoelstra.

[shrink]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

This coach and every one of our players didn’t win a title.

Dump Ant. Progress is nothing. Only trade with OKC. Every coach and player on the other 29 teams are losers.

[shrink]

You should always look for ways to get better, but the championship or bust mentality only makes sense as a motivator for people involved. As fans, it doesn’t make any sense. You should be trying to enjoy the game. If you only enjoy championships, you’re going to be miserable most of the time, and for what? As a fan, your work ethic is irrelevant.

Beyond that, realistically there are levels to success. No reason pretend that losing in the finals is the same as missing the playoffs.

Sometimes I wonder how much winning a championship would change us as a fanbase. If that change would be actually be a positive change.

How can it not be a positive one?

Sometimes it’s the fans internal view of the world, shifting the goal posts so they can keep their own biases.

For years, we didn’t win games. When we did win games, some people complained we didn’t win by enough, or win enough of them, and it was Finch’s fault.

For years, our prospects didn’t develop. When they did develop, some people complained they didn’t develop fast enough, or not every prospect developed, and it was Finch’s fault.

For years, we didn’t make the playoffs. When we did, some people complained we never got out of the first round. When we did, they complained we didn’t win a championship, and it was Finch’s fault.

I have no doubt that if we won a championship, these same people would complain we didn’t win it fast enough, or we didn’t win enough of them, and it would be Finch’s fault.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Sometimes I wonder how much winning a championship would change us as a fanbase. If that change would be actually be a positive change.

How can it not be a positive one?

I have no doubt that if we won a championship, these same people would complain we didn’t win it fast enough, or we didn’t win enough of them, and it would be Finch’s fault.

I understand, but that's overkill. MN fanbase is approaching 35 years. I think just one will sufficiently replenish their thirst. Speculation of how fans emotions MAY be IF we were to actually win it all is pretty out-there.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

This coach and every one of our players didn’t win a title.

Dump Ant. Progress is nothing. Only trade with OKC. Every coach and player on the other 29 teams are losers.

Nothing wrong with disagreeing with a post.

Maybe try coming up with means of expressing how my take is poor/of no value in your eyes.

Yet, you went the immature/over-reation route.

[shrink]

Sorry to bring any sense of politics into a sports forum,

But, some of you guys are "giving out participation trophies" for good effort. That is the Minnesota way.

Got to no matter what be overly critical of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE to get to a championship.

Not worth playing the game if modest relevance is satisfying.

This coach and every one of our players didn’t win a title.

Dump Ant. Progress is nothing. Only trade with OKC. Every coach and player on the other 29 teams are losers.

Nothing wrong with disagreeing with a post.

Maybe try coming up with means of expressing how my take is poor/of no value in your eyes.

Yet, you went the immature/over-reation route.

Because sarcasm and humor are hard to pick up on the internet, at RealGM we use green fonts to show you’re not 100% serious.

[Loaf_of_bread]

This coach and every one of our players didn’t win a title.

Dump Ant. Progress is nothing. Only trade with OKC. Every coach and player on the other 29 teams are losers.

Nothing wrong with disagreeing with a post.

Maybe try coming up with means of expressing how my take is poor/of no value in your eyes.

Yet, you went the immature/over-reation route.

Because sarcasm and humor are hard to pick up on the internet, at RealGM we use green fonts to show you’re not 100% serious.

I may bring a bit of light heartedness at times, possibly could be viewed as slight sarcasm, but not really. I get it, I'm intense in terms of management style. Also get it that it wouldn't necessarily work very well with these kids making more money than their coaches.. nothing I post though is troll/not serious