Possible Deadline Deals?

Post #21 » by **C.lupus** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:52 pm

theGreatRC wrote:How did I know Craig Smith was going to be brought up every other post? I love you guys

I love you, too. :kiss

I really like Smith, also. It's just that this is a 5 win team that is in desparate need of more talent. Smith and Gomes are 2 of our most tradable assets. We need to focus on getting a talented sarting 5 first, then worry about filling in the other pieces. Jefferson isn't going anywhere so Smith is destined to be a backup PF on this team.

deeney0 · Post #22 » by **deeney0** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:51 pm

Of all the basketball dreams/nightmares to have, I had a dream last night that the Warriors beat the Wolves and I vividly remember that POB went 6 of 10 from 3.

karch34 · Post #23 » by **karch34** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:25 pm

Jaric and Smith in a deal for Snow would be alright, but only if we got some kind of pick back as well.

Smith for Frye: Simple, but I like it.

Jaric + Smith for Jason Collins + top-20 protected 1st: This one probably has better long term potential with the pick, but I'd probably do it.

Gadzooks and Villaneuva for Smith, Green, and Jaric: Call me crazy, but this one really intrigues me. Green isn't going to be with us and we have a huge glut at the wing position, so it makes sense to deal him. Gadzuric hasn't played well lately, but I think for what we'd need him for he'd be effective. CV has loads of talent, but outside of a stretch in Toronto he never came close to realizing it. I'd probably take that gamble, especially since we'd balance our lineup a lot more.

dunkonu21 · Post #24 » by **dunkonu21** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:40 pm

karch34 wrote:Gadzooks and Villaneuva for Smith, Green, and Jaric: Call me crazy, but this one really intrigues me. Green isn't going to be with us and we have a huge glut at the wing position, so it makes sense to deal him. Gadzuric hasn't played well lately, but I think for what we'd need him for he'd be effective. CV has loads of talent, but outside of a stretch in Toronto he never came close to realizing it. I'd probably take that gamble, especially since we'd balance our lineup a lot more.

Ohh I like that deal too....but Villaneuva adds a pretty large chunk of money to our cap, which is something we can't really handle...this may be better if we did something like:

Craig Smith, Buckner and Jaric for Gadz and Villaneuva.

This way we get rid of Buckner's extra year. Jaric and Garz contracts are pretty similar, but I'd rather overpay a center than a guard any day of the week. Villaneuva is a much better back-up PF than Craig Smith, because he is anything but undersized. Villaneuva doesn't have a great work ethic, that's one thing that scares me. I think being around the Wolves would be good for him, because pretty much everyone on the team is a hard worker.

karch34 · Post #25 » by **karch34** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:55 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:Ohh I like that deal too....but Villaneuva adds a pretty large chunk of money to our cap, which is something we can't really handle...this may be better if we did something like:

Craig Smith, Buckner and Jaric for Gadz and Villaneuva.

That's a great point as far as salary. I like that even better.

4ho5ive · Post #26 » by **4ho5ive** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:19 pm

If we could make something small like Smith for Frye happen, I would seriously have to consider this. I love Cookie as a Wolf. And I hate to see the guy go, but if we could get someone like Frye in return, I think I would pull the trigger in the end. Im not a fan of Villanovanueva so the only enticing part of that deal is dumping Jaric's contract.

Sorry RC

Post #27 » by **revprodeji** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:49 pm

Frye for Smith is a matter of just providing a better fit for both teams. Frye would be a great fit next to Al and Cookie would provide a good yin/yang for LMA off the bench.

Not sure if portland does this, but I think there is value. I think there are many situations were Portland fits as a trade partner. Just doubt they would want to do it within the division.

karch34 · Post #28 » by **karch34** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:11 pm

Dealing with Portland might be difficult since they are in the division.

In the ESPN article that had Ratliff mentioned as possibly being dealt/bought out, they mentioned Kidd lobbying NJ for a skilled PF.

How about the following:

MN out: Jaric, Smith, Doleac
MN in: Gadzuric, Kristic, and filler (Allen/Armstrong)

Milw out: Gadzuric, Villanueva
Milw in: Jaric, Smith, Doleac

NJ out: Kristic and filler (Allen/Armstrong)
NJ in: Villanueva

Kristic has struggled, but at one time was considered a decent prospect. It's unlikely NJ would re-sign him with the major contracts they already have in the Big 3. He's expiring so we wouldn't be stuck with much if he didn't work out. CV could also fit nicely in NJ's system with Kidd.

Post #29 » by **revprodeji** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:16 pm

Does not do anything for me. I actually do not like it much.

shrink · Post #30 » by **shrink** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:33 pm

How would Krstic do here?

theGreatRC · Post #31 » by **theGreatRC** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:53 pm

The Channing Frye deal doesn't sound too bad. He is a good passer and can take it out to the 15 foot mark.

I see him as a back-up though if we get him, he isn't a starting caliber player, just like Cookie.

Post #32 » by **revprodeji** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:11 am

at the 5 spot I think he could be. He has been in the past also. Plus, being next to an Al-type would improve his play.

Sephiroth · Post #33 » by **Sephiroth** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:52 pm

Wiretap reports that Amare Stoudemire could be traded.

Could Amare Be Traded?
CBS Sportsline - 01/19 - 5:18 AM ESTAccording to CBS Sportsline columnist Tony Mejia, Amare Stoudemire may just be obtainable via a trade after all.

According to Mejia, there are internal discussions being held in Phoenix regarding the availability of Stoudemire, who can opt out of his current deal following the 2009-10 season.

According to sources, there is one faction within the organization willing to deal the two-time All-Star, while another is dead set against it.

Not likely to happen, but if a young stud like Stoudemire was on the table what would we offer 'em? I wouldn't mind parting with Ratliff, Craigers, Brewer, and BOS pick.

Post #34 » by **revprodeji** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:41 pm

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 5#15183945

Kind of tiny, but fits with Shrinks (I hate the puppies and want to trade them all for draft picks)

Basically it is Gomes and Doleac for GSW Lotto pick and Perovic
http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/kostaperovic.asp

You get your damned late first round draft pick and we lose our puppy.

Post #35 » by **revprodeji** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:31 am

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 0#15184570

theGreatRC · Post #36 » by **theGreatRC** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:44 am

revprodeji wrote:http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=15184570#15184570

I LIKE!

shrink · Post #37 » by **shrink** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:50 am

revprodeji wrote:http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=15183945#15183945

Kind of tiny, but fits with Shrinks (I hate the puppies and want to trade them all for draft picks)

Basically it is Gomes and Doleac for GSW Lotto pick and Perovic
http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/kostaperovic.asp

You get your damned late first round draft pick and we lose our puppy.

I'd do that .. as long as Cruella says its OK.

4ho5ive · Post #38 » by **4ho5ive** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:34 pm

^LOL

Any deal that nets us a player like JO without compromising McCants, Brew, Foye, Jefferson or our pick is mos def worth a look. Im worried about trading for a guy who can opt out and who has a deal the size of JO's. But he is a perfect compliment to Big Al and he is still only 29. Injury issues are another factor to consider but still, its a good deal.