RealGM's FIC rankings

[Devilzsidewalk]

I never even knew this existed

http://realgm.com/src_playerrankings.php?filter=all

The Floor Impact Counter (FIC) used here is modified by RealGM's Christopher Reina to give more value to assists and blocks, differentiate between offensive and defensive rebounds (offensive being more valuable) and slightly reduces the value of missed field goals and free throws.

what do you think about this as an accurate indicator of a player's impact?

The name's are right, but the order:

Big Al is at #17 overall, ahead of Tim Duncan.

Marcus Camby is #4 overall, Brandon Roy is #30 (kinda low no?)

Ben Wallace is ON the top 100 and ahead of Ray Allen, Tayshaun Prince and many others


I think I'd like to de-emphasize blocks because Camby, Bogut, Kaman, and Dalembert are getting too much credit. And work a plus/minus in there somehow.

[4ho5ive]

Big Al in the top 20

I dont know what it means, but if its not a list of the 20 worst players, im happy.

[colincb]

The inputs are the same as the efficieny rating in the NBA and the tweaks he's made I think are superior. For example an opffensive rebound is tougher than a defensive one. I think it's better to focus on the FIC per 40 mpg column. Al's 22, Gomes is 109 and Telfair is 150.

The far right column is pretty interesting as he's trying to determine whether a player's contract is appropriate for his production. This is good news for you guys since for the 150 players with the top FIC scores, Gomes has the 7th best contract, Al's is 10th, and Telfair is 43rd. (KG is 123). I presume that he's using Al's new contract.

Gomes is a RFA and this analysis projects a value of 5.2 MM which is just a hair below the MLE. If he keeps playing at his recent pace, his value will go up quite a bit. For the last 10 games, he's been 23rd among NBA forwards in his efficiency rating and over the last 5 games he's been tied for 10th. Al has been 10th among forwards the last 10 games and 4th the last 5 games. Besides Gomes has a very good reputation around the league. You might do better with Telfair because of his past history (which is not really that bad.)

[andyhop]

The inputs are the same as the efficieny rating in the NBA and the tweaks he's made I think are superior. For example an opffensive rebound is tougher than a defensive one. I think it's better to focus on the FIC per 40 mpg column. Al's 22, Gomes is 109 and Telfair is 150.

The far right column is pretty interesting as he's trying to determine whether a player's contract is appropriate for his production. This is good news for you guys since for the 150 players with the top FIC scores, Gomes has the 7th best contract, Al's is 10th, and Telfair is 43rd. (KG is 123). I presume that he's using Al's new contract.

Gomes is a RFA and this analysis projects a value of 5.2 MM which is just a hair below the MLE. If he keeps playing at his recent pace, his value will go up quite a bit. For the last 10 games, he's been 23rd among NBA forwards in his efficiency rating and over the last 5 games he's been tied for 10th. Al has been 10th among forwards the last 10 games and 4th the last 5 games. Besides Gomes has a very good reputation around the league. You might do better with Telfair because of his past history (which is not really that bad.)

I would say he is using the amount Al is paid this season which is why he is so high on the list and not next years deal.

[andyhop]

Not sure that his method really gives a true real salary value when Ricky Davis shows up as being worthy of being paid 89% more than he currently is and Brian Skinner is deserving of near max money for his 14 minutes a game efforts among others.

[colincb]

I agree with that the values are going to be too high because of the way he's computing it because players are going to rise in value to replace the real busts above them. However, I think the values do give a good idea as to whether you have a bargain or not. The values are overstated, but they're consistent. In other words, if player A is a bigger bargain than player B and you cut the values in half, then player A is still going to be better than B. Either way, Gomes, Al and Telfair are still going to be very good values.

A bigger problem is that defenders, players who contribute on the court in ways not captured by stats (for example, taking charges, tips, etc.), and leaders are going to be rated less than their true value.

[Vindicater]

Camby is not the 4th best player in the NBA... thus irt is a bad stat... just like all stats are BAD