GG wants out

[deeney0]

Neither one of them will win us an extra 5 games this year. Neither one of them will win us one extra game this year. The point is getting a "free" 40 games to see if either of them is a C we'd want to sign this offseason - my bet is no, but you never know.

[wolves_fan_82au]

if we trade green it needs too be for a exspiry cause we dont have the roster space for our draft picks

1.Jefferson
2.Foye
3.Mccants
4.Madsen
5.Jaric
6.Brewer
7.Walker
8.Buckner
9.1st round pick
10.2nd round pick
11.2nd round pick
12.Telfair
13.Gomes
14.Smith
15.Richard

[shrink]

Good point wolves_fan_82au.

We talk about the constraints of the lux all the time, but we rarely talk about the limitations of roster size.

We have four options though:

1. Make a trade (my personal favorite)

2. Stash a 2nd rounder in Europe

3. Don't bring everyone back

4. Buy out or release one of the older vets (Buckner seems the most likely)

I'd like though to keep one eye on the roster situation. We don't know yet which players we'll want to bring back, and giving away their roster spot, either with a player with a guaranteed contract, or a larger trade returning a 1st rounder, is a lack of flexibility that I'd want to avoid at this point.

[wolves_fan_82au]

Good point wolves_fan_82au.

We talk about the constraints of the lux all the time, but we rarely talk about the limitations of roster size.

We have four options though:

1. Make a trade (my personal favorite)

2. Stash a 2nd rounder in Europe

3. Don't bring everyone back

4. Buy out or release one of the older vets (Buckner seems the most likely)

I'd like though to keep one eye on the roster situation. We don't know yet which players we'll want to bring back, and giving away their roster spot, either with a player with a guaranteed contract, or a larger trade returning a 1st rounder, is a lack of flexibility that I'd want to avoid at this point.

not a bad idea about stashing a 2nd rounder in europe but we also need to remember the year after as well we will have 3 1st round draft picks but we only have 3 exspiry's but i think Mccants will def be re-signed

so yeh we might have too trade a pick or make some hard decsions on who we bring back next year

[andyhop]

Roster wise you have Buckner and Madsen who can be cut without affecting the team if necessary next year.Presumably Madsen gets another job in the organisation.

[karch34]

if we trade green it needs too be for a exspiry cause we dont have the roster space for our draft picks

1.Jefferson
2.Foye
3.Mccants
4.Madsen
5.Jaric
6.Brewer
7.Walker
8.Buckner
9.1st round pick
10.2nd round pick
11.2nd round pick
12.Telfair
13.Gomes
14.Smith
15.Richard

Good point. However, I highly doubt that both 2nd round picks are with the team next year. I think we go Loukas Mavrofalkatitkechiwackalamaticoditis with that pick as someone we can keep overseas for awhile.

[Klomp]

Heres a good article on Green

Boston's Doc Rivers, who coached Green for his first two NBA seasons, calls the 6-8 guard "the slam-dunk champ but not the basketball champ yet."

"Last year, I had all the 'experts' telling me to play Gerald Green every night," Rivers said. "People who say throw him out on the floor aren't in practice every day. He's going to be a good player, but you've got to give him time. You've got to let him grow. He's not ready yet."

Green is averaging 12 minutes and 4.8 points a game after playing 22 minutes and scoring 10.4 points a game last season.

Someone asked Rivers why such a losing team, which the Celtics were a season ago and the Wolves are now, can't find more playing time for Green.

"Even if it's a team that not's winning, you still have to have coaching integrity," Rivers said. "You've got other guys, other young guys, working their butts off on that team and it's a competition. Yeah, he'll come in and score some points for you, but it's the whole game that makes you a winner. I still believe Gerald will be a good player. It'll just take time and patience."

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/14456147.html

[Alfred]

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wouldnt he fit in better with there fast paced though

Toronto is among the slowest teams in the league pace-wise.

[wolves_fan_82au]

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Good point. However, I highly doubt that both 2nd round picks are with the team next year. I think we go Loukas Mavrofalkatitkechiwackalamaticoditis with that pick as someone we can keep overseas for awhile.

it would have too bve more than a while considering we have 3 1st round picks next year and only 2 roster spaces

im beginng too think maybe we give detriot that 2nd round pick ???

[Devilzsidewalk]

from horace's PP link:

Green said the reason he wants to be traded is simply a matter of business. He averaged only 12 minutes in 21 games through the first half of the season, leaving him with questions about his future with the team.

The Wolves didn't pick up his contract option for next season, so he will be an unrestricted free agent after this season.

"I love this team," Green said Sunday. "I love this organization and the nucleus they have here. I'm just not sure if I'm part of their long-term future. I just want to go somewhere where I think my future is brighter."

Green confirmed that his agent, Byron Irvin, asked the organization early this month to trade him. Through a team spokesman, Kevin McHale, the Wolves' vice president of basketball operations, declined to comment Sunday.

Green, who turned 22 on Saturday, said he's not sure whether he will be moved or not before the NBA's Feb. 21 trade deadline.

"This is still my team," Green said. "I'm still a Minnesota Timberwolf. I'm still going to work hard and focus on what I have to do here."

I like Green and I feel bad that he hasn't gotten any burn. I know its a competition, but part of me feels like the talent disparity isn't enough to justify all the DNP's and low minutes. I really thought GG and McCants would share SG duties this year.

[karch34]

It is disappointing. I know he's prone to lapses on D and such, but at the same time there's others out there getting the ability to play through those mistakes.

Is he just the worst practice player ever and that's why he's not getting at least a sniff?

[shrink]

I read Green's remarks in the paper after the New Jersey game, and he was thrilled, and praising Al Jefferson. I think I read that his three's started the comeback. At least the kid hasn't checked out on us.

[andyhop]

Green just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time in coming to Minny.With the roster spot situation and the money left for next year under the lux he was just the odd guy out.

On a team who can afford to carry an end of bench development guy he has to be worth a go as he is going to be a low risk (salary wise)/high reward (if he ever gets the game) player.

The Wolves just aren't that team.

He and his agent are doing what they should be doing in asking for a trade because he needs playing time to get himself the best possible deal for next year.

[eloper]

I'm glad Gerald came out and made some of these comments, because I think a lot of people (mainly fans of other teams) were labeling him a punk for asking to be traded, when that just couldn't be further from the case. This is why I'm such a big Gerald fan, he's a genuinely good kid who wants nothing more than to be a good basketball player, and with his talent I feel like it's only a matter of time before he gets there. He may be taking the scenic route, but if he's given the opportunity he'll get there at some point.

[theGreatRC]

When Marko asked for a trade and we didn't do it(or couldn't find offers), he became a better player.

Let's hope Gerald has the same result.

[shrink]

And Jaric changed his mind, and rescinded his trade request.

I just wish he had was more consistent. He seems too willing to play passively. I like being pass-first, but not pass-always.