2nd pick

[Sebzor]

If MIAMI select Beasley with 1st pick do u select D. Rose or do you put your faith in Foye-Telfair and trade down for lower pick+val young or 2 lower picks?

Maybe with SEA
2nd pick for 4th pick/23rd pick
and select:
4th: D. Jordan
23rd: D. Hardin
32nd: L. Mbah A Moute

?

[jpatrick]

I think you take Rose and don't think twice. I know Foye has looked good, but Rose is a franchise type player. Just got done watching his game today and he only scored 4 or 6 pts but he dominated the game. Reminds me of Kidd when Kidd was at Cal, could score no points but be the most important player on the floor. I think he's the most athletic point guard I've ever seen.

If we take Rose, then Rose/Foye is the starting backcourt and when McCants comes off the bench Foye can slide over to the point. That's a heck of a three guard rotation.

The bigger questions, is who do we take at #3? It's been discussed a ton, but between Mayo, Bayless and Lopez....I don't know who's the best pick. Bayless can play the point and us uber-athletic, Mayo is the most skilled and Lopez, is well, a decent center. I don't think Jordan or Gordon are realistic picks at #3.

[the_bruce]

I don't think the additional late 1st covers the difference between 2nd and 4th. Maybe if the 23rd pick was 10 spots higher?

[shrink]

I think there is a huge gap between 2 and 3, and there'd need to be trade compensation to reflect that. The NBA is a superstar league, so I think it'd be hard for a rebuilding club trying to build excitement to trade away a top two pick.

On the other hand, I won't say its impossible. Foye is starting to get back to form, and there is a lot riding on the his success. The investment the front office made in him pays off best if he can make the transition to full-time PG. I think if he does great the last 20 games, there's a small chance MIN would trade down, and I could be comfortable with Foye and Telfair. But like I said, the return would have to make it worth it, and that's a steep drop.

Sebzor, I like your work on the trade board, so do your magic!

[Sebzor]

a trade with SEA?

D. Marshall/D. Wilkins/M. Sene (or J. Petro)/4th pick
-for: M. Jaric/G. Buckner/M. Madsen/2nd pick

MIN get cap relief and nice C prospect + 4th pick
Select:
4th: Mayo - Jordan

SEA get D. Rose to add to the young core of Durant & Green (mesh for 2years add some nice pieces u got yourself a champ contender

[AQuintus]

If we were going to trade away Rose (and I really hope that our front office wouldn't be dumb enough to do so), we certainly wouldn't trade him away to a team in our own division.

[T-HuDfoShizzle]

If we were going to trade away Rose (and I really hope that our front office wouldn't be dumb enough to do so), we certainly wouldn't trade him away to a team in our own division.

Yea theres no way we help Seattle land Rose

[shrink]

If we were going to trade away Rose (and I really hope that our front office wouldn't be dumb enough to do so), we certainly wouldn't trade him away to a team in our own division.

Like Foye for Roy, right?

I think this "in your own division" thing is more myth than fact.

[MN Die Hard]

I'm all for trading down if we get #3 or worse, but its very unlikely there's a trade out there I'd like for the #2. At the very least, it would include a top-ten pick coming back, a future #1, Jaric going out, and a young prospect coming back. But trading away Rose could be franchise suicide, so I just dont see it happening. It would require the other team grossly overpaying.

[Worm Guts]

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Like Foye for Roy, right?

I think this "in your own division" thing is more myth than fact.

No way. There are some cases where it's not a big deal, like when one team is good and another stinks and you're just trading role players. But here you're giving a team in you're division a potential all-star point guard for the next 12 years when both teams in the exact same position of rebuilding. You can't make this trade with Seattle.

[Worm Guts]

If MIAMI select Beasley with 1st pick do u select D. Rose or do you put your faith in Foye-Telfair and trade down for lower pick+val young or 2 lower picks?

Maybe with SEA
2nd pick for 4th pick/23rd pick
and select:
4th: D. Jordan
23rd: D. Hardin
32nd: L. Mbah A Moute

?

Fair value would be #4 + unprotected '09 pick for #2

[AQuintus]

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Like Foye for Roy, right?

I think this "in your own division" thing is more myth than fact.

I would hope that the front office would learn from that mistake.

[Basti]

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Like Foye for Roy, right?

I think this "in your own division" thing is more myth than fact.

wasn't there rumors that we originally had a deal with the rockets? if that's true we'd never had dealt with portland anyway

[shrink]

wasn't there rumors that we originally had a deal with the rockets? if that's true we'd never had dealt with portland anyway

Yep, that's. HOU is also in the West.

I don't have any firm data, but on swaps of young players, it does not seem to me that there has been this "never swap in your own conference" rule that fans seem to think exists. Same for the "you never trade big for small" rule.

[TheProdigy]

I believe the rule is that you don't trade superstars within your division.

[GopherIt!]

thought on Mayo & Rose:

I think OJ would fit great next to Al and Randy but I don't see how he will be able to close the gap that seems to exists on Rose at this point. He has an up hill battle to really showcase himself in the tourney.

Memphis faces #16 TX Arlington, #8/9 Miss St or Oregon, and baring any upsets #4/5 Mich St or Pitt. That's a much more favorable schedule for Rose than what Mayo faces. USC battles K-Beast & Co. in the first round and if they win that game they would likely have to face Wisconsin in the second round. It will be really hard for USC to get past the second round. I also doubt OJ lights up the scoreboard against Bo Ryan's team.

[Worm Guts]

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Yep, that's. HOU is also in the West.

I don't have any firm data, but on swaps of young players, it does not seem to me that there has been this "never swap in your own conference" rule that fans seem to think exists. Same for the "you never trade big for small" rule.

It's not a rule, it is something you take into consideration. If a trade is going to help your team, you're probably going to make it but if it helps a team within your division more, maybe you don't.

[SonicYouth34]

If either Foye or Rose can guard 2 guards, you gotta take Rose. You don't wanna end up like the Chicago Bulls if neither can guard 2's

[john2jer]

When comparing Mayo and Rose you definitely have to consider the schedule each faced this year. USC's non-conference schedule was just as stacked as Memphis's, but USC's conference schedule was clearly a lot tougher than Memphis.

Rose came to a team with more talent than Mayo did.

There was a lot less pressure on Rose than Mayo because of those two factors.

Now I take Rose over Mayo no matter what the case, but I wouldn't be completely against Mayo. He can likely play a little bit of point when Foye isn't on the floor, and he has that superstar potential needed to take this team to the next level.