If You Draft Rose, You Must Trade Foye, Play Brewer at 2.

[Steve_Holiday]

I don't think it makes sense to unload Foye or McCants with the goal of giving Rose/Mayo/etc and Brewer heavy minutes, especially before next season even starts.

Right now, we know (sort of) what to expect from Foye and McCants. Why trade a known quantity when we have no idea what a new draft pick will bring to the table? And as far as opening up more minutes for Brewer...I don't think he's earned anything more than the 20 a game he's getting now. He definitely hasn't improved during the course of the season (his best month was January).

I'd like to see some positive production from our pick and from brewer before we decide to trade away some of the few talented players on the team.

[dunkonu21]

I;m sure there are a couple SGs who are taller than 6'6", but I doubt there are very many.

[big3_8_19_21]

Foye used to be the biggest guard on a 4 guard starting line-up. He guarded the other teams second biggest guy, aka their PF. I don't think 6'6" is a big problem for him.

[PeeDee]

I;m sure there are a couple SGs who are taller than 6'6", but I doubt there are very many.

I think the protypical shooting guard starts at 6'6", that's why Foye is considered short for the position.

[wolves_fan_82au]

ill chose Mccants hes a year younger and imo will turn out better

the whole foul thing will end up going away eventually we have a lot of time anyway imo we wont be back up there again in the west for 3-4 years

[Krapinsky]

Most of the really good one are 6'6" or close to it-

Kobe (6'6")
Martin (6'7")
Ginobli (6'6")
Roy (6'6")
McGrady (6'8")
Igoudala (6'6'')
Redd (6'6")
Carter (6'6")
Richardson (6'6")
J.Johnson (6'7")
R. Alllen (6'5")
R. Haimlton (6'7")
M.Miller (6'8")
M. Dunleavy (6'9")
J.R. Smith (6'6")
R. Brewer (6'7')

As a matter of fact the only guards less than 6'5" who are in the top 20 PER (according to Hollinger):

Iverson (6'0") very limited defensively
Wade (6'4") somewhat overrated defensively
Ellis (6'3") pretty limited defensively
Gordon (6'3") very limited defensively

^^Notice how only Iverson's team will be in the playoffs, and that's the 8th seed while playing with a pretty stacked team.

I'm convinced that at the starting 2 guard position you need a two way player to be a good team. By all accounts that player is usually 6'6" or taller.

[Klomp]

Most of the really good one are 6'6" or close to it-

Kobe (6'6")
Martin (6'7")
Ginobli (6'6")
Roy (6'6")
McGrady (6'8")
Igoudala
Redd (6'6")
Carter (6'6")
Richardson (6'6")
J.Johnson (6'7")
R. Alllen (6'5")
R. Haimlton (6'7")
M.Miller (6'8")
M. Dunleavy (6'9")
J.R. Smith (6'6")
R. Brewer (6'7')

As a matter of fact the only guards less than 6'5" who are in the top 20 PER (according to Hollinger):

Iverson (6'0") very limited defensively
Wade (6'4") somewhat overrated defensively
Ellis (6'3") pretty limited defensively
Gordon (6'3") very limited defensively

^^Notice how only Iverson's team will be in the playoffs, and that's the 8th seed while playing with a pretty stacked team.

I'm convinced that at the starting 2 guard position you need a two way player to be a good team. By all accounts that player is usually 6'6" or taller.

Umm, aren't they on the same team? How can they have two starting 2-guards?

[deeney0]

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Umm, aren't they on the same team? How can they have two starting 2-guards?

Wolves get away without having any.

[Krapinsky]

Always the nitpicker Klomps. Never replying on the merits. Really a constant thorn in my side.

Jk. Obviously I need to be a little more thorough, after all, someday I'll be a realgm and all.

JR Smith is obviously in the 6th man role, as is Ginobli. But their respesctive PERs are so high that they would normally be starters on most teams.

Still, nearly all of the most productive 2 guards in the league are 6'6".

[mandurugo]

Foye used to be the biggest guard on a 4 guard starting line-up. He guarded the other teams second biggest guy, aka their PF. I don't think 6'6" is a big problem for him.

Guarding the average college PF is not the same as guarding an NBA 2-guard. Foye is too small to spend major minutes at the 2 in the NBA.

[JBoog35]

I am way too tired of hearing about which gaurd we are going to drop. I remind you all of David Ortiz, he had injuries, slumps, etc., and the first full year he has where things click, he turns into a mvp canidate every year... my point. I love, love, love the backcourt of Foye/McCants. Foye has improved already on his outside shot. Let's not forget that both of these 2 gaurds could in 2 years turn into serious offensive options. I don't care much for Rose. Seems like a more athletic Foye, but Foye is a way more clutch. I just hate it when guys start talking about moving 2 players who are gonna torch us in 2 years and become something more for someone else.

[Bucky O'Hare]

Pacers may be willing to give you their 1st (around #11) and #9 pick in 2005, Ike Diogu, for Foye. It depends on how they value him against the point guards in this years draft.

[AQuintus]

What would you say to a Foye + Jaric for Marquis Daniels + 11th pick instead?

[Basti]

no need for daniels IMO

[Bucky O'Hare]

Daniels is a $7M expiring contract next season, I'm pretty sure that's what he's interested in.

I'd probably do it, but that's easy to say when it's not my millions of dollars being spent.

[Basti]

Daniels is a $7M expiring contract next season, I'm pretty sure that's what he's interested in.

I'd probably do it, but that's easy to say when it's not my millions of dollars being spent.

well I didn't know he's an expiring. now it makes way more sense

[revprodeji]

trading Foye would be wrong at this stage. Same with Shad. Both are young with flashes. Prospects that are growing and need some time because of injuries. Trading them for less value right now is too knee jerk. Even if we do draft Rose. Good teams have good 8 man rotations. If we get Rose then Shad off the bench is almost just as important as having the starting backcourt. We can go big with Brewer at the 2, or even small with Shad at the 3.

The more talent the better. I also think it will fit. We just need a vet 5 to play goalie.