Ryan Gomes

[Vindicater]

My only concern is if he can continue to score well with jefferson back. I dont think he can with Jefferson in the lane.

[rick_21]

When Jefferson is back, we don't need him to score 20 points to be a starter

Gomes has to score 10-14 points per night with those great percentages he's shooting recently. He also has to play some defense (I know he's not Battier but he can be an average defender), help in the paint with some rebounding and be efficient in the offensive end, as he is doing the last month.

If he can do this, he will be either a decent starter or one of the best bench guys in the NBA

As it've been said, consistency is the key for Ryan, and recently he has been our most consistent man. And very cheap by the way. His salary is very nice for the player he is.

[Vindicater]

I think he would perfect backing up Marvin Williams and Love at the 3/4 spots if we can sign Williams

That way as a bench player he can bang against the bench small forwards and blow past the bench power forwards of other teams.

[JMillott]

Gomes defense is just not good enough, or at least his offense isn't good enough to put up with his defense anyhow.

Right now getting the touches and shots after the Jefferson injury it doesn't really matter because you need to fill that production but when he is putting up 12/5 as the third option his defense kills them. With hopefully a good draft the Wolves better hope they'd improve the roster enough so they don't need more then that from him.

[big3_8_19_21]

Gomes defense is just not good enough, or at least his offense isn't good enough to put up with his defense anyhow.

Right now getting the touches and shots after the Jefferson injury it doesn't really matter because you need to fill that production but when he is putting up 12/5 as the third option his defense kills them. With hopefully a good draft the Wolves better hope they'd improve the roster enough so they don't need more then that from him.

This is interesting...first time I've heard Gomes called a bad defender in a long time...care to expand on that thought?

[Frozen316]

his offense isn't good enough to put up with his defense anyhow.

That can be said about almost every player on the roster probably.
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[revprodeji]

The only negatives I have heard about Gomes that are valid arguments against him being a starter are...

1.) Overachieving, he has hit his ceiling and went past. (*Not that I agree)
2.) He is a below avg ball handler and will never beat people off the dribble
3.) His intensity is very inconsistent. (*easily biggest issues)
4.) If his jumper is not falling he disappears.

I like Gomes, I have heard he is at least an average, if not above average defender for the 3. is it because he is not crazy athletic that people assume he cannot defend? If he could continue to transform his body as a SF and find some consistency then he will be fine.

[Vindicater]

He is a glue guy on a championship team in my opinion, could easily become an Horry/Posey type player towards the end of his career.

Lets hope its with us winning championships:)

[JMillott]

Gomes plays hard but he simply lacks the length or athletic ability to defend PF's or give the rebounding and shot blocking/altering needed from that position on a good defensive team. At the SF position he can be solid enough but again lacks the lateral quickness to stay with elite scorers off the dribble or chasing them off the ball.

At SF he can get the job done for some teams but its not realistic on a team that projects Jefferson, Love and Foye as its main core to have him at SF with them.

Should they get Thabeet in the draft that would drastically change things.

He'll never be a Horry/Posey type because those guys were/are defensive players first and steady shooting was just the gravy. They were both more athletic, taller and perhaps most importantly have huge wingspans allowing them to play bigger guys and give more space to wing players but still being long enough to bother their shots.

Outside of winning the draft lottery in order to get either Harden or Griffin my idea of a dream draft for the Wolves is Thabeet and Teague or Lawson. If they can use the 4 picks and either Craig Smith, Ryan Gomes or Mike Miller in order to get those guys the future gets alot brighter.

[Vindicater]

im not sold on teague, think hes gonna be anotheer foye

[JMillott]

im not sold on teague, think hes gonna be anotheer foye

I'm not sold on most of this draft, its got some potential players but outside of Griffin and Harden i'm not sold on anybody being a top of the roster type.

I believe Teague can help a team though. I think he is what he is a scoring PG but he's alot more of a PG then Foye ever was.

I think they should try and deal for Baron Davis with the two late 1sts and Miller and Cardinals expiring contracts then use the Heat pick and their own to deal for Thabeet if they need to trade up a few spots.

G Baron / Telfair
G Foye / Carney / Brewer
F Brewer / Gomes
F Jefferson / Love / Smith
C Thabeet / Jefferson / Love

Hopefully they get lucky and don't need to deal the Heat pick to get Thabeet so they can draft a decent backup G at either position.

[revprodeji]

why is every thread draft based?

[john2jer]

why is every thread draft based?

What else do we have to look forward to right now?

And Baron Davis makes me wanna vomit.

[Devilzsidewalk]

why is every thread draft based?

because we have half the picks in the upcoming draft

[shrink]

I like Ryan Gomes. He goes out every day and plays hard, and seems to make good things happen when we need them, like stopping a run. However much I like his attitude though, I think he is, at best, a borderline starter because of his physical limitations. I'm happy to have him here, and he's well worth the contract, but if we got a good offer for him, I'd take it. He helps the team, but he's not crucial to our future.

[JMillott]

I like Ryan Gomes. He goes out every day and plays hard, and seems to make good things happen when we need them, like stopping a run. However much I like his attitude though, I think he is, at best, a borderline starter because of his physical limitations. I'm happy to have him here, and he's well worth the contract, but if we got a good offer for him, I'd take it. He helps the team, but he's not crucial to our future.

Very well put, he isn't a bad player to have around and his contract is a solid value but unless he is coming off the bench he isn't really an impact player.

He is basically the very definition of an average NBA hybrid SF/PF. That is a good thing if he is the 7th or 8th best player on your roster but if he is one of your top 3 to 5 guys you don't have enough good players unless you had two elite guys like Kobe and Shaq which allowed the Lakers to contend with guys like Fisher and Rick Fox.

[Vindicater]

^^^ agree